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Saying in the cast list that Elsa Greer is a murderer

I had removed the word "murderer" from Elsa Greer's entry in the cast list and I was reverted. I think the word should not be there.

Firstly, in terms of the plot, when Greer says to Poirot "... it is only your word against mine", he says "Exactly." And, in regard to a possible case against her, he says "in my opinion there is not sufficient evidence – there are only inferences, not facts." He also thinks the authorities would not be anxious to prosecute the wife of a lord (and, WP:OR, to have to concede there had previously been a serious miscarriage of justice). Then, while alone with Poirot, she confesses to him. As the book ends Caroline is still, in law, the murderer. But I mustn't be too prissy – these are not real people and this is certainly not a BLP.

But I also have sympathy with the request above to remove the word from the cast list. The plot section itself explains the situation nicely, I think, and "spoils" the plot as is Wikipedia's custom. I am not suggesting that should be changed but there is no need to include an inadequate comment in the cast list as well. Thincat (talk) 12:01, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted that. Many of the character lists for articles about novels by Agatha Christie identify the victims and the murderer(s). The entire article discusses the entire novel, and Wikipedia does not use the spoiler concept for that reason. These are not blurbs by a publisher or teasers for a movie, but articles to discuss the whole story. Her novels rarely take a case all the way to a court decision. It is more often what is revealed by her detective, so Poirot saying there might not be enough for a court does not really matter as to identifying the killer. Of course, Poirot considers his word to be worth more than anyone else's word, in these novels! If you simply want to see characters named, with no description, there are some blogs that do that for Agatha Christie novels. Cast lists for adaptations do not describe the character; rather their focus is on naming who played the role. --Prairieplant (talk) 17:32, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]