Talk:First Parliament of Great Britain

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Should this article be merged

I accept that the article is currently not very substantial. It is a work in progress. I intend to develop a series along the lines of the articles about New Zealand Parliaments, like 1st New Zealand Parliament.

Therefore it would not be appropriate to merge an article about a specific Parliament with a general article about the whole history of the Parliament of Great Britain.

Gary J 17:47 30th December 2005

Quoting

This

XXII. THAT ... A Writ do issue ... Directed to the Privy Council of Scotland, Commanding them to Cause ... forty five Members to be elected to sit in the House of Commons of the Parliament of Great Britain ... in such manner as by a subsequent Act of the present session of the Parliament of Scotland shall be settled ... And that if her Majesty, on or before the first day of May next, on which day the Union is to take place shall Declare ... That it is expedient that the ... Commons of the present Parliament of England, shall be members ... of the first Parliament of Great Britain, for and on the part of England ... and the members of the House of Commons of the said Parliament of England and the forty five Members for Scotland ... shall be ... the first Parliament of Great Britain ...

would read better as this

XXII. THAT a writ do issue, directed to the Privy Council of Scotland, commanding them to cause forty five Members to be elected to sit in the House of Commons of the Parliament of Great Britain, in such manner as by a subsequent Act of the present session of the Parliament of Scotland shall be settled.

And that if her Majesty, on or before the first day of May next, on which day the Union is to take place shall declare that it is expedient that the Commons of the present Parliament of England, shall be members of the first Parliament of Great Britain, for and on the part of England; and the members of the House of Commons of the said Parliament of England and the forty five Members for Scotland shall be the first Parliament of Great Britain.

Of course, I wouldn't want to know this without knowing exactly what was elided with the dots? Morwen - Talk 13:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Morwen: My policy when quoting from a historic document (at least if it is written in something close to modern English), is to use the original punctuation, spelling and style and where I omit parts of the text indicating that by using '...'.

The parts of the text I left out were mostly concerned with the House of Lords or seemed to be repetition or formalities which added little to what I was trying to quote as concisely as possible. The full text is very long and not at all user friendly. However I will try to type the whole thing, so you can judge for yourself (the additional parts are in bold). I have also corrected a typing error. The word struck through was incorrect and the correct word is in italics.

XXII. THAT by virtue of this Treaty, Of the Peers of Scotland at the time of the Union Sixteen shall be the number to Sit and Vote in the House of Lords, and Forty five the number of the Representatives of Scotland in the House of Commons of the Parliament of Great Britain; And that when Her Majesty Her Heirs or Successors, shall declare her or their pleasure for holding the first or any subsequent Parliament of Great Britain until the Parliament of Great Britain shall make further provision therein, A Writ do issue under the Great Seal of the United Kingdom, Directed to the Privy Council of Scotland, Commanding them to Cause Sixteen Peers, who are to sit in the House of Lords to be Summoned to Parliament and forty five Members to be elected to sit in the House of Commons of the Parliament of Great Britain according to the Agreement in this Treaty, in such manner as by a subsequent Act of ~~the~~ this present session of the Parliament of Scotland shall be settled; Which Act is hereby Declared to be as valid as if it were a part of of and ingrossed in this Treaty : And that the Names of the Persons so Summoned and Elected, shall be returned by the Privy Council of Scotland into the Court from whence the said Writ did issue. And that if her Majesty, on or before the first day of May next, on which day the Union is to take place shall Declare Under the Great Seal of England, That it is expedient that the Lords of Parliament of England, and Commons of the present Parliament of England, shall be Members of the respective Houses of the first Parliament of Great Britain, for and on the part of England, then the said Lords of Parliament of England, and the Commons of the present Parliament of England, shall be the members of the respective Houses of the first Parliament of Great Britain, for and on the part of England : And Her Majesty may by Her Royal Proclamation under the Great Seak of Great Britain, appoint the said first Parliament of Great Britain to Meet at such time and place as Her Majesty shall think fit; which time shall not be less than fifty days after the date of such Proclamation; And the time and place of the meeting of such Parliament being so appointed, a Writ shall be immediately issued under the Great Seal of Great Britain, directed to the Privy Council of Scotland, for the summoning the Sixteen Peers and for Electing forty five Members, by whom Scotland is to be represented in the Parliament of Great Britain: And the Lords of Parliament of England, and the Sixteen Peers of Scotland, such Sixteen Peers being Summoned and Returned in the manner agreed in this Treaty; and the members of the House of Commons of the said Parliament of England and the forty five Members for Scotland, such forty five members being Elected and Returned in the manner agreed in this Treaty shall assemble and meet respectively in their respective houses of the Parliament of Great Britain, at such time and place as shall be so appointed by Her Majesty, and shall be the Two houses of the first Parliament of Great Britain, and the Parliament may Continue for such time only as the present Parliament of England might have Continued, if the Union of the Two Kingdoms had not been made, unless sooner Dissolved by Her Majesty; And that every one of the Lords of Parliament of Great Britain, and every member of the House of Commons of the Parliament of Great Britain in the first and all succeeding Parliaments of Great Britain until the Parliament of Great Britain shall otherwayes Direct, shall take the respective Oaths, appointed to be taken ... (there then follows the best part of another page about what oaths are to be taken and what they mean, which I do not think I need to copy - I suggest for our purpose we end the quote with 'Dissolved by Her Majesty').

Now I have gone to the trouble of typing the major part of the text, I suppose we could expand the quote in the article. --Gary J 20:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]