Talk:Finland Plot/GA1

GA Reassessment

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I will do the GA Reassessment on this article as part of the GA Sweeps project. H1nkles (talk) 19:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After having read the article I come away with a sense that while there are certainly strong points to the article there are some concerns that must be addressed if the article is to meet current GA Criteria.

I think the lead is fair, I think a sentence about the fact that one of the reasons that Thaksin was deposed in the military coup was ostensibly because he had insulted the king. That is a point brought up in the article but not mentioned in the lead, and it is a fairly significant outcome of the alleged plot.

My primary concern is about the quote. It appears to have a WP:POV angle to it that makes me uneasy. The lead in to the quote even indicates that "The Nation" was an anti-Thaksin newspaper, which automatically colors the quote with a bias. There would need to be a pro-Thaksin quote to balance this one. Rather it would be better if the quote was either significantly trimmed or removed. I welcome opinions and discussion on this issue.

There is a ^{[citation needed]} template at the end of the last paragraph in the Impact of allegations section. This needs to be addressed.

Regarding references and POV, while I don't sense that the article is unfairly weighted or violates POV policies, I do note that there are 9 separate articles from "The Nation" referenced. That's nearly half of the references and the article clearly states that it is an anti-Thaksin newspaper. This creates a credibility issue.

Ref 16 is a dead link, which is also the link to the quotation, this will need to be fixed.

Overall per the GA Criteria it is important to attempt to put an image on the article wherever possible. I think there are possibilities for an image here. I note that the article on Thaksin Shinawatra has a free-use image of the former prime minister that could be used in this article. It's part of the GA Criteria, which is why I bring it up in this review.

To summarize, I think the article has potential to remain at GA but work will need to be done. The key issues I see that are make or break with this article is the POV quote, the ^{[citation needed]} template, the dead link that references the quote, and a free-use image. The abundant use of an admittedly biased source is not enough in my opinion to disqualify from GA, but it is a concern nonetheless. I will place the article on hold for one week and notify all interested projects and editors in the hopes that work can be done to keep it at GA. Should there by any questions or comments please contact me on my talk page. H1nkles (talk) 21:19, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the lead is fair, I think a sentence about the fact that one of the reasons that Thaksin was deposed in the military coup was ostensibly because he had insulted the king.: Done.
My primary concern is about the quote.: Have pared down the quote to remove any hints of POV.
Ref 16 is a dead link: Have replaced with archive.org link (http://web.archive.org/web/20070312031248/http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/page.news.php?clid=11&id=30005048&usrsess=)
There is a [citation needed] template at the end of the last paragraph in the Impact of allegations section. This needs to be addressed.: ~~In progress.~~ Done.
Overall per the GA Criteria it is important to attempt to put an image on the article wherever possible.: ~~In progress.~~ Done. Patiwat (talk) 06:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your quick and accurate work. I will keep the article at GA. H1nkles (talk) 16:09, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]