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What is the company's name: Finery, or Finery London?

Is the company's name "Finery", or "Finery London"? If the latter, the article should be moved and the text adapted accordingly. Softlavender (talk) 11:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

From the Companies Register, it appears that the company itself is called LFG Ltd. It's not unusual for British company names to have no relation to their trading name (a thousand years of history means most of the good names are long since taken); Wikipedia practice has always been to use the WP:COMMONNAME rather than the formal title (thus Sainsbury's rather than "J Sainsbury plc") except in a few cases like BT Group where the full title is necessary to differentiate the internal structure of the company or management changes. From their website, it looks like they use "Finery" and "Finery London" interchangeably in text, but that their logo is just "Finery" so I'd stick with that unless it becomes necessary to disambiguate. ‑ Iridescent 15:29, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Moving "Further Reading" and unwarranted ELs here to Talk page

These materials may be culled to add content to the article, but they really have no place "as is" in the article, as they currently serve only as random self-promotion/cruft:

Karen Dacre (10 November 2015). "Don your Finery: we meet the high-street heroines who called time on fast fashion". Evening Standard. Retrieved 17 January 2016.
"Finery London, An Affordable, Zara-Like Store, Is Definitely Going To Be A Staple In My Wardrobe". Bustle. Retrieved 17 January 2016. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
Aude Lagorce (3 February 2015). "New British Label Finery London Makes Affordable Look Good". The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 17 January 2016.
"Finery: The label for women who have grown out of topshop and asos". The Australian. Retrieved 17 January 2016. (subscription required)
"Finery London created by former Topshop and ASOS designers lands in Australia". Daily Mail. 30 March 2015. Retrieved 17 January 2016.
"Shopping Fix: Our Edit Of The Best Pieces From Finery London". Grazia Daily. Retrieved 17 January 2016.
"Finery London Launches This Week & Grazia Readers Get A Discount, Hurrah!". Grazia Daily. Retrieved 17 January 2016.
Leaper, Caroline. "Finery London". Marie Claire. Retrieved 17 January 2016.
http://www.businessoffashion.com/articles/bof-exclusive/finery-london-launches-financing-rocket-internet-backed-gfg
http://www.whowhatwear.co.uk/finery-london-store-like-zara
http://www.theonlinestylist.co.uk/in-all-your-finery/
http://www.disneyrollergirl.net/finery-london-popup-showroom/
http://spotding.com/2015/lfw-rs-x-finery-event/

-- Softlavender (talk) 01:49, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Omission of some of these sources in the article body (namely, the formatted ones I added to it, diff) may be why it was again nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Finery (company) (2nd nomination). I disagree with the notion that the sources "serve only as random self-promotion/cruft", because they serve to establish topic notability, and can be used to expand the article. Most people don't view talk pages, usually only reading the article pages. As such, I have restored these sources to the article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:55, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Topic notability is not established by what's visible on the article. The article was AfDed again because the nominator is an inexperienced editor (edit count ~1,000) who failed to do any sort of WP:BEFORE, and who failed to even look to see if the article had been AfDed before. Softlavender (talk) 05:27, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]