Talk:Finale
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[edit]This page is currently a mix between a disambiguation page and an stub article about finale. It needs some work Mitchellfx 01:42, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
To put it mildly! All the various sorts of finales need their own pages, if they don't have them already (which most don't). And just check "What links here[1]" - zillions of articles link to this dab page. --GuillaumeTell (talk) 01:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Definitions
[edit]The page currently features three definitions, with links to pages that do not mention the term finale: Classical music, Opera, and Musical theatre. Since the term is not discussed on those pages, the three points should probably be removed. The only reason that I hesitate to do so is that there were six pages describing pieces of music or theater that linked to this page. I removed the internal links from those six pages, as I know of nowhere better for them to link to. (I will no doubt be pilloried for this; I welcome others to find a better solution.)
Should those links simply be removed? Should a definition be included here? MOS:DAB suggests 'yes' to the former and 'no' to the latter. Can anyone suggest a better solution? Cnilep (talk) 02:35, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- User:Kleinzach has added a definition to the lead section (see also Kleinzach's comments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical music); another editor recommends linking to Wiktionary (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musical Theatre) and two others recommend creating a new page on finales in music (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera).
- My apologies for splitting up the discussion over so many venues. I'll try to get it back on track here. Cnilep (talk) 22:27, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
- I had recommended creating an article at Finale (music). I think that is the appropriate resolution to all links for an article relating to a "finale" in any kind of music. Basically, the thing to cover in such an article would be the different ways in which a piece of music is typically brought to an end, and perhaps how this has developed over time. bd2412 T 23:32, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think that what is needed is two fairly substantial articles entitled something like:
- [[Finale (stage works)]], and
- [[Finale (non-vocal classical music)]] (or some other such distinguishing title)
- It seems to me that opera/operetta/musical theatre finales differ fairly considerably from symphony/concerto/chamber music finales, and so trying to bung all of these into one article is likely to cause confusion.
- --GuillaumeTell 00:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- You're right, I was thinking only of the finale as the flourish signaling the end of a piece of music, and not the finale as the last piece or last song of a production containing multiple pieces. bd2412 T 01:01, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with Guillaume Tell's idea. If anyone has references available to source the articles, go for it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:22, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- You're right, I was thinking only of the finale as the flourish signaling the end of a piece of music, and not the finale as the last piece or last song of a production containing multiple pieces. bd2412 T 01:01, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think that what is needed is two fairly substantial articles entitled something like:
See: Finale (music). Hyacinth (talk) 01:11, 21 February 2012 (UTC)