Talk:Figaro
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Figaro absolutely does NOT mean barber in French
[edit]Figaro absolutely does NOT mean barber in French; the word for barber is "barbier", from "barbe" (beard) in French. The word "Figaro" is not French in origin, and does not mean anything in this language beyond the opera character's name (i.e. "Le barbier de Séville"). - BS, native francophone — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.213.66.212 (talk • contribs) 09:52, 2007-08-23 (UTC)
- I agree, Figaro absolutely doesn't mean barber in French. - Frederic, native francophone as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.2.130.146 (talk) 18:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Technically, the aforementioned play is not called Figaro itself but merely features the character. It is like featuring the song "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window" on the Window (disambiguation) page. There seems to be a fan of the Soviet production pushing the play here. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 08:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- It is directly referred to the character and to the original play.--Rubikonchik (talk) 15:02, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Per WP:DISAMBIGUATION: "Do not add links that merely contain part of the page title, or links that include the page title in a longer proper name, where there is no significant risk of confusion. Only add links to articles that could use essentially the same title as the disambiguated term." --Jaan Pärn (talk) 22:19, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Going on with my sad monologue to Rubikonchik: in your edit summaries you have provided no other argument than just "irrelevant". Please address the WP:DISAMBIGUATION policy section I have cited above, as the link you are so frantically pushing is a direct violation of that. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 16:35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- Per WP:DISAMBIGUATION: "Do not add links that merely contain part of the page title, or links that include the page title in a longer proper name, where there is no significant risk of confusion. Only add links to articles that could use essentially the same title as the disambiguated term." --Jaan Pärn (talk) 22:19, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- the Crazy Day or the Marriage of Figaro is directly related to Figaro, just as any other link on this page. I wonder why are so attached namely to this entry and to others?--Rubikonchik (talk) 12:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- The other entries do not merely contain the name Figaro but are literally Figaro. Like London Figaro is a London-based magazine literally called Figaro. Solitaire du Figaro is a singles race literally called Figaro. Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro (musical) is not literally Figaro and therefore is falsely included in the list. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:42, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Exactly, so does the Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro is literally called Figaro.--Rubikonchik (talk) 15:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- By whom? Solitaire du Figaro literally means the singles race Figaro in French. London Figaro is the magazine literally called Figaro based in London. Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro... um... is literally Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro, not Figaro. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 16:02, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- By the same people who call Solitaire du Figaro - Figaro and so on. It's a common way to call all related to Figaro titles simply 'Figaro', and you have proved it yourself, especially when we are talking about the play character Figaro, which is excatly what the Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro is...--Rubikonchik (talk) 16:10, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Can you source that 'common way'? --Jaan Pärn (talk) 16:12, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Seems to me you didn't bother doing so when you were referring to are literally Figaro.--Rubikonchik (talk) 16:16, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- It is common sense to state that Le Figaro and London Figaro newspapers or Figaro singles race do not merely contain the name but have Figaro as their proper name. If you feel the other way, you are welcome to try to remove them. I don't. Figaro is not the proper name for Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro and is therefore falsely included here. Feel free to provide a source for the opposite. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 16:23, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- It is common sense to state that Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro and The Marriage of Figaro or Figaro do not merely contain the name but have Figaro as their proper name. Figaro is the proper name for Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro and is therefore rightly included here. Feel free to provide a source for the opposite.--Rubikonchik (talk) 16:28, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well, as you are the one who wishes to have it included, the WP:BURDEN lies on you. Cheers. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 16:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- It is common sense to state that Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro and The Marriage of Figaro or Figaro do not merely contain the name but have Figaro as their proper name. Figaro is the proper name for Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro and is therefore rightly included here. Feel free to provide a source for the opposite.--Rubikonchik (talk) 16:28, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- It is common sense to state that Le Figaro and London Figaro newspapers or Figaro singles race do not merely contain the name but have Figaro as their proper name. If you feel the other way, you are welcome to try to remove them. I don't. Figaro is not the proper name for Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro and is therefore falsely included here. Feel free to provide a source for the opposite. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 16:23, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Seems to me you didn't bother doing so when you were referring to are literally Figaro.--Rubikonchik (talk) 16:16, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Can you source that 'common way'? --Jaan Pärn (talk) 16:12, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- By the same people who call Solitaire du Figaro - Figaro and so on. It's a common way to call all related to Figaro titles simply 'Figaro', and you have proved it yourself, especially when we are talking about the play character Figaro, which is excatly what the Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro is...--Rubikonchik (talk) 16:10, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- By whom? Solitaire du Figaro literally means the singles race Figaro in French. London Figaro is the magazine literally called Figaro based in London. Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro... um... is literally Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro, not Figaro. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 16:02, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Exactly, so does the Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro is literally called Figaro.--Rubikonchik (talk) 15:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- The other entries do not merely contain the name Figaro but are literally Figaro. Like London Figaro is a London-based magazine literally called Figaro. Solitaire du Figaro is a singles race literally called Figaro. Crazy Day or The Marriage of Figaro (musical) is not literally Figaro and therefore is falsely included in the list. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:42, 16 July 2009 (UTC)