Talk:Feyd-Rautha/Archive 1

Archive 1

Correct Title

Is Feyd-Rautha the correct title for this page? At different times he is also known under the alternative names Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen and Feyd-Rautha Rabban. Can't say I have any preference though. Cfailde 11:15, 2004 Aug 20 (UTC)

I think this is best precisely because is surname is in doubt. There should be redirects from those two titles however. 10:30, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Feyd and Irulan?

Does anyone know if the following statement from paragraph two of the article is mentioned in the actual novel, or is it an extrapolation from the miniseries:

The Baron planned a strategic marital alliance, hoping to marry Feyd to Princess Irulan Corrino, the eldest daughter of the Emperor Shaddam IV, and giving the Harkonnens influence or control over the throne.

This is also mentioned in the article for Irulan, but I don't remember this particular alliance being alluded to in the novel. TAnthony 02:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Abolition of Barony

In Heretics of Dune, it mentions that House Harkonen continued to exist well into Leto II's reign (the protaganists use a Harkonen built no-sphere, a technology which doesn't exist at the time of Feyd-Rautha's death). While I don't recall any refrences to specific barons after Feyd-Rautha, doesn't this make the fact that the bottom of the page says barony abolished innacurate?68.173.1.164 08:29, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it does. I changed it.

We also need a reference on the Lady Fenring quote. --dllu 19:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Lady Fenring, done. TAnthony 03:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Original research

I've removed the followingnew entry to the article:

In keeping with many uses of Arabic in the Dune series, his given name appears to be derived from two Arabic words, فيض fayḍ 'flood, overflow, abundance' and روثة rawthah 'piece of animal dung'. Therefore his remarkably uncomplimentary name may be translated from Arabic as 'flood of dung'.

Though we know that Herbert was heavily influenced by Arabic language and culture, providing Arabic definitions/translations is original research and implies that Herbert intended these meanings to apply to his terms. We all know he probably did, but that connection can't be made here without a source.

This kind of thing has been an issue in many Dune articles (I recently made similar excisions in another article, see Talk:List of Dune terminology#Arabic), but this Feyd entry is especially OR because it is clearly stretching to find a connection. Again, it is likely that Herbert intended this connotation from the name, but we cannot state it here in this form. TAnthony 23:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)