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[edit]Two translations are given for "Wenn ein starker Gewappneter": "When a heavily armed man" and "When a strong armoured man", which is correct/preferred? --Khajidha (talk) 18:17, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- Both are equally fine, - as so often there is not one possibility. In German, the man is strong, not the armour, so I'd prefer the second, but others may prefer the first. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:34, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- ps: it's biblical, - you could look up your preferred Bible version, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:36, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- To me you seem to be contradicting yourself, as the second version seems to focus more on the strength of the armor than of the man. --Khajidha (talk) 23:20, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- May also be my English. I read "When a heavily armed man" (the armour is heavy) and "When a strong armoured man", the man is strong (also armoured). It really doesn't matter, translation is almost never exact. No idea what the original language said, and we talk Brahms. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- In English "heavily armed man" means "a man who is carrying a large number of weapons" while "strong armoured man" could be interpreted either way but would generally be presented as "strong-armoured man" if the armour was the focus or "strong, armoured man" if the man was the focus. --Khajidha (talk) 12:17, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- May also be my English. I read "When a heavily armed man" (the armour is heavy) and "When a strong armoured man", the man is strong (also armoured). It really doesn't matter, translation is almost never exact. No idea what the original language said, and we talk Brahms. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- To me you seem to be contradicting yourself, as the second version seems to focus more on the strength of the armor than of the man. --Khajidha (talk) 23:20, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Senator's ornate what?
[edit]"Carl Petersen, to whom the work is dedicated, in the senator's ornate" Senator's ornate what? There is no noun here for that phrase to describe. And Petersen is described in the article as a mayor, not a senator. --Khajidha (talk) 23:24, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- May be my English, the senators in Hamburg (members of the Senat, many) ware an "Ornat", official outfit, what's that in English? Thank you for fixing my typos. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- That would simply be an ornate outfit or ornate uniform. Again, what does the Senate have to do with it, wasn't he the mayor?--Khajidha (talk) 09:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- Do we know if the mayor had a different one? Does it matter? I just copied from his article, and that thought the strange looks needed an explanation, will remove it if it's irritating. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:10, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- That would simply be an ornate outfit or ornate uniform. Again, what does the Senate have to do with it, wasn't he the mayor?--Khajidha (talk) 09:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)