Talk:Fatima al-Suqutriyya

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A fact from Fatima al-Suqutriyya appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 November 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Yemeni poet Fatima al-Suqutriyya saved the island of Socotra by writing a qasida to Imam al-Ṣalt ibn Mа̄lik requesting military help?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/November. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fatima al-Suqutriyya.

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:53, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Fatima al-Suqutriyya is the first attested poet from the island of Socotra and lived in the third century AH (816–913 CE)?~~ Source: Serge D. Elie, 'Soqotra: South Arabia’s Strategic Gateway and Symbolic Playground', British Journal of Middle Eastern Studies, 33.2 (November 2006), 131-60, doi:10.1080/13530190600953278 (p. 158 n. 105).
- ALT1:... that Yemeni poet Fatima al-Suqutriyya saved the island of Socotra by writing a qasida to Imam al-Ṣalt ibn Mа̄lik requesting military help? Source: السقطرية - https://web.archive.org/web/20160304093105/http://www.al-aalam.com/al-aalam/personinfo.asp?pid=17018 & https://www.atheer.om/archives/6739/%d8%b3%d9%82%d8%b7%d8%b1%d9%89-%d8%a7%d9%84%d9%85%d8%ad%d8%aa%d9%84%d8%a9-%d9%88%d8%a8%d8%b7%d9%88%d9%84%d8%a9-%d8%a7%d9%84%d8%b9%d9%85%d8%a7%d9%86%d9%8a%d9%8a%d9%86-%d9%84%d8%aa%d8%ad%d8%b1%d9%8a/

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Comment: This is the first time I've added a co-author. Hope it's OK!

Created by Lajmmoore (talk) and Alarichall (talk). Nominated by Lajmmoore (talk) at 21:26, 24 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Drive-by comment: What is an attested poet? Please rephrase that. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:10, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yoninah, thanks! Basically attested means 'known' or 'historically verified', so something like this?

ALT0a: ~~... that Fatima al-Suqutriyya was the first poet known to come from the island of Socotra and she lived in the third century AH (816–913 CE)?~~ Source: Serge D. Elie, 'Soqotra: South Arabia’s Strategic Gateway and Symbolic Playground', British Journal of Middle Eastern Studies, 33.2 (November 2006), 131-60, doi:10.1080/13530190600953278 (p. 158 n. 105).

or maybe:

ALT0b: ~~... that Fatima al-Suqutriyya is the island of Socotra's first poet and she lived in the third century AH (816–913 CE)?~~ Source: Serge D. Elie, 'Soqotra: South Arabia’s Strategic Gateway and Symbolic Playground', British Journal of Middle Eastern Studies, 33.2 (November 2006), 131-60, doi:10.1080/13530190600953278 (p. 158 n. 105). Lajmmoore (talk) 23:03, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0c: ~~... that the 3rd-century poet Fatima al-Suqutriyya was the first from the island of Socotra?~~ Yoninah (talk) 23:21, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a full review: New enough, long enough, neutrally written, adequately referenced. As all sources are foreign-language, unable to check for close paraphrasing. I have struck most of the hooks because they follow the formula "Did you know that ... X=Y?" ALT1 is far more interesting and hooky. Foreign language hook ref AGF and cited inline. QPQ done. There is just the matter of one quote which I tagged as needing a cite. The DYK credit lines for creator credits look fine. Yoninah (talk) 20:15, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yoninah Added cite for quote. Lajmmoore (talk) 20:43, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]