Talk:Fascism in North America/Archive 1

Archive 1

Per request, I have taken to the talk page.

So, empty talk page, what do you propose we do here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B41C:3E19:E0B1:F855:AC64:33C0 (talk) 02:56, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Again, I've been asked to take it to the talk page , but my pleas for discussion seem to be falling on deaf ears. How can we improve this article, friends?

How can I be of service to this fine encyclopedia? Let's make this article great again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B41C:3E19:E0B1:F855:AC64:33C0 (talk) 03:23, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

The problem with including Trump here is that it's conflating opinion with fact. The news pieces are all about people who have called Trump a fascist, or opinion pieces saying that Trump is fascist. These opinions may be well-deserved, but they are still opinions. To outright say that Trump is a fascist in Wikipedia's voice, we would need much stronger sourcing (see WP:REDFLAG for the policy). It may be possible to attribute these opinions to their sources in other articles about Trump, e.g. his biography or his campaign article, but that doesn't really work in this article, as mentioning him at all here is tantamount to saying that he is a fascist. After the dust over Trump's presidency is settled and he starts to be written about in real history books, then we may be able to call him fascist if that's what all the history books say. But until then, we will have to tread more carefully in order to follow the biographies of living people policy. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 03:05, 14 November 2016 (UTC)