Talk:Farrukhi Sistani
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Edit warring, unsourced claims
[edit]@2A02:908:1B15:ACC0:B5CA:39E5:DEC8:A860: Please take your concerns here instead of edit warring.
"Iran didn’t exist either back then" "The state of Iran the word Iran is referring to in the article was found in 1979" "If you say the state of Afghanistan has no relevance here the state of Iran has no relevance"
Here's some sources to refute these claims;
"Though the initial decades following the bloody irruption of Chinggis Khan and his sons on Iran" - Persian Notables and the Families Who Underpinned the Ilkhanate, page 182
"So, this is the period in which Drangiana, the old Achaemenid and Arsacid province, slowly morphed to form the new entity of Sakistan, resulting from the Saka conquests of East Iran." - ReOrienting the Sasanians: East Iran in Late Antiquity, page 33
Do you see any mention of Afghanistan or Greater Iran? I have a whole library of sources like this - if you want, I can gladly post more. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:09, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure of the relevance of those quotations. However, it would be interesting to know if Farrokhi came from the part of Sistan which is now Iran or the part which is Afghanistan. Does anybody know this? Kanjuzi (talk) 04:58, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- No idea, if I remember correctly, he simply refers to Sistan as his home in his poems. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- If he came from Zaranj, the old capital of Sistan, that's just across the border in Afghanistan. So it might be more accurate, instead of saying that Sistan is a region in "eastern Iran", to say that it is a region which crossed over the modern border between eastern Iran and what is now southern Afghanistan. To most readers "eastern Iran" would imply somewhere within the borders of present-day Iran, and so might be misleading. Kanjuzi (talk) 17:57, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- I mean, historians do that as well. It is important to emphasize that he lived in a Iranian world, considering his poems and career. He himself uses the term "Iran" occasionally in his poems. Afghanistan really has no relevance. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:49, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- What about "...in Sistan in eastern Iran (present-day Iran and Afghanistan), which was then under Saffarid rule."? - LouisAragon (talk) 20:37, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Ye sure. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:41, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not the best solution there is, but its better than nothing for the time being I guess. - LouisAragon (talk) 21:08, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Ye sure. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:41, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- I mean, historians do that as well. It is important to emphasize that he lived in a Iranian world, considering his poems and career. He himself uses the term "Iran" occasionally in his poems. Afghanistan really has no relevance. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:49, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
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