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Some clarification

I've archived the old contributions due to the large numbers of personal attacks. It also was being used inappropriately.

I'd like to ask editors to read WP:ISNOT. In particular, it says:

Discussion forums. Please try to stay on the task of creating an encyclopedia. You can chat with folks about Wikipedia-related topics on their user talk pages, and should resolve problems with articles on the relevant talk pages, but please do not take discussion into articles. In addition, bear in mind that talk pages exist for the purpose of discussing how to improve articles; they are not mere general discussion pages about the subject of the article

Hopefully if the misuse of the page stops, then the personal attacks will also. Reading WP:Original Research might be useful also, and it applies to this page as much as to articles. If the personal attacks don't stop, it's extremely likely editors will be blocked now that this has come to the attention of Administrators (who are not moderators by the way). Dougweller (talk) 08:24, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What this article is about - and external links

This is, from the title, an article on Fare strikes - plural. It should not be concentrating on one particular strike. In reference to that editors should also read WP:EL - articles should only have a handful of links, so one particular strike really should have at most one link, maybe none. And I am not sure that any of the links qualify for inclusion. Dougweller (talk) 08:32, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Took your suggestion and eliminated all but what was the most detailed, straightforward article. It was published in the hardcopy version of Z Mag

Miasnikov (talk) 18:31, 4 May 2009 (UTC) miasnikov Miasnikov (talk) 18:31, 4 May 2009 (UTC)azine, so it's from a credible, established source. Also, Tom Wetzel the linked article's author is a published writer with a long-established reputation. Here's his bio:[reply]

Tom Wetzel has worked as a typesetter, college teacher, and technical writer. He’s been an activist since the late 1960s, mainly on labor, housing, and public transit issues. He is currently president of the San Francisco Community Land Trust.

Ed.

Eddillon (talk) 09:33, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, sounds sensible. The article now needs broadening I think. Dougweller (talk) 09:44, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The links to various articles have now been censored

The original links to articles analyzing the failed transit system fare stirke in San Francisco in 2005 need to be restored. Otherwise this article is nothing but the worthless opinions of "Ed Dillion," and lacks credibility. Kevin Keating —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miasnikov (talk • contribs)

This article is not about the 2005 SF strike. I've explained what our guidelines are for external links, read WP:EL. I note your personal attack on another editor. Dougweller (talk) 20:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Claim by "dougweller" and the ongoing bogus claims in reference to the SF Chinese Progressive Association.

"dougweller" has made an unsubstantiated claim here. Take off the white pancake makeup, remove the red ball from the end of your nose, and cite your source, ad homimen guy. Try to be clear and specific.

People I have contacted at the Chinese Progressive Association do not go along with the inaccurate claims made about their role in the San Francisco fare strike flop on this wikipedia entry.

But don't take my word for it; contact them yourself. Their contact info is available via google.

Miasnikov (talk) 18:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)miasnikovMiasnikov (talk) 18:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What did I say about personal attacks? You've already had one warning. And more to the point, why would I contact them? That's not the way Wikipedia works, which is through reliable and verifiable sources -- see WP:RS and WP:Verifiable. Information gained from contacting them can't be used in articles. Dougweller (talk) 21:27, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the land of grown-ups, you would have to -- take a deep breath first -- give a clear specific example of the aforementioned, alleged personal attack.

Can't do that? Then take your plastic bucket and shovel and your toy dump truck and find anothe sandbox to make mudpies in.

Miasnikov (talk) 00:44, 22 May 2009 (UTC)miasnikov, in response to pest Miasnikov (talk) 00:44, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]