Talk:Fairfield College

Unreferenced material

This article contains unreferenced information critical of school/principal. The information might be accurate, but needs verification to remain. Other statements are unbalanced as well, such as

"In an interview in the Waikato Times, Finn said the school had 1,500 students in July 2009, but the Ministry of Education website says Fairfield had only 1235 in July 2008."

There is no reference given where readers can determine whether the Times actually reported an interview, whether the Times itself said the roll was 1500 students, or whether the Times quoted Finn as saying the roll was 1500. In light of the history of hatchet-job editing of this article, this desperately needs a reference which can be accessed by readers. Or out it goes, along with other material which has remained unreferenced. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 22:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

References

Unbalanced tag

This article has

• 470 words about the school's founding and history,
• absolute zilch about the positive achievements of the school/pupils/alumni over 50 years,
• and a whopping 720 words covering 2007-09, all negative.

That's why I have put the unbalanced tag on it. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 02:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

edit warring-vs-discussion (or lack thereof)

This is a response to a request made at WP:RFPP. I note that there has been no attempt at discussion here. Try that first, and if that does not stop the edit warring, resubmit the protection request. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:09, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

• Comment from 125.237.33.169 removed, uncited or poorly cited attack on a living person. Off2riorob (talk) 12:11, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Disaffected teachers can be "very very cunning" too. They post defamatory material to an article's talk page, knowing it will remain there even though it could never survive in the article. 222.152.174.216 (talk) 01:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikis are not reliable sources (in general), because they allow anyone to edit. If you are correct that local principals refer to this page to see what's happening at the school, despite having access to local newspapers, then clearly this article contains too much unreferenced content.

While much of the information you have added to this and other articles appears to be correct, you have never managed to produce inline references - if this is because you don't understand how to, please ask for help. You also appear not to understand that this is not a news source, and the detail you provide on recent incidents is inappropriate. I will semi-protecting the article in the meantime to prevent you from continually adding this poorly sourced and inappropriate material. I will also request some guidance on whether the defamatory statements you have posted above on this talk page should be removed.-gadfium 22:10, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

• I've removed some unsourced comments per BLP. SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 03:28, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

2011 Changes

At the end of 2010 the principal, Julie Small,who had been placed on leave,suddenly resigned. Small has taken a position at St Andrews Middle School as a curriculum advisor until the end of 2011, according to the Secretary of Education. Gerhardt van Dyk has been appointed acting principal until a new principal is appointed.The Waikato Times reported that a new MOE advisor,who used to be a student at Fairfield College, has been appointed to lead the new BOT that was appointed in July 2011. At a public meeting reported by the Waikato Times it was said that the new management team was of top quality and the school's finances were now in the black. The new advisor is incharge of finances and staff appointments.It is hoped that the new principal will be appointed in late 2011 to start in 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.88.97.148 (talk) 10:19, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Staff take firm action

When a group of 7 irresponsible junior school students bought suspected extacsy tablets to school and took some ,staff and the school nurse rushed the effected students to the Waikato Hospital where they got immediate treatment before being sent home. It is believed one of the girls brought the drugs from her home.The principal held a whole school assembly to tell the students what had happened and to reinforce the anti drug and alchohol message that is a standard part of the junior health curriculum. Students expressed some annoyance at the negative attitude of the media. Parents interviewed on TV1 said they supported the school which did a lot for their children. The media commented on the poor ERO report that reflected very badly on ex commissioner Dennis Finn and ex principal Julie Small who both left suddenly earlier this year.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.89.178.121 (talk) 05:47, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

New Mormon Principal appointed

A new principal Mr Crawford, a Maori Mormon from Tokoroa, has been appointed to FFC to start at the beginning of 2012. He is the husband of the Maori Mormon principal of Fraser High school. He was appointed by the temporary Limited Statuatory Manager who is also a Maori Mormon. The only non Morman principal candidate shortlisted for the position withdrew his name. The new BOT did not appoint the new principal.The chairperson of the BOT is also a mormon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.58.185.98 (talk) 09:48, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Had "Mr Crawford" been a Pakeha Baptist, would you have said so? Why is it necessary to say his wife is a Maori Mormon, and he was appointed by a Maori Mormon? Why is it important that the only non Mormon candidate withdrew, or that the BOT chair is also a Mormon? What exactly is your problem? Moriori (talk) 19:58, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mo. Mormons are a relatively small religion apart from maybe in Hamilton. When the Mormon High school,Church College, closed about 2 years ago the various mormon teachers and managers were able to move to some of the other schools in Hamilton (and elsewhere?). Mormons have some distinctive practices,perhaps the best known being abstaining from alcohol but also have secret religious practices.The particular school in question has a liberal tradition.I dont know of any city in NZ where both husband and wife are both principals,let alone mormon principals.The details as mentioned are just facts.By all accounts Mr Crawford is a fine principal.The candidate who withdrew was a Maori Catholic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.58.184.199 (talk) 20:33, 13 February 2012 (UTC) (This entry moved from User:Moriori's talk.)

You didn't answer my questions. What is the relevance of your fixation on Mormons? And FYI, I live in a small town where a husband and wife are both principals (of large secondary schools). Nothing new there. Moriori (talk) 21:26, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Although not a cult the Morman church has an "interesting" history as its founding happened in well documented historical times.I believe its correct that the founder was a well known con man with many convictions.He believed in and practiced multiple marriages and having child brides.I now some of the church now reject these practices.Quite recently the church was in the habit of secretly baptising well known figures after their death -initially without the knowledge or authority of the family.In the US courts action has now "stopped" this-in theory at least.In nz the cliental are predominalty Maori.One well known belief is the belief in the primacy of males in the family, the church and presumably in society. I think its important that the public know the belief system of a principal and how it may impinge on their decision making. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.153.154.179 (talk) 02:17, 10 May 2012 (UTC)