Talk:Exsanguination/Archive 1

Question

What's the difference between this and desanguination? — Ultor_Solis • T 02:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Exsanguination is the fatal and total loss of blood, while desanguination is merely a major loss. PrinceForte 06:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Exsanguination as Suicide

Isn't it true that some people, when experiencing severe depression, sometimes use razors or knives to sever arteries in their wrists and allow themselves to exsanguinate as a means of suicide? I believe it's more commonly known as "cutting oneself." Perhaps this fact could be added here? PrinceForte 06:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

"Cutting oneself" usually refers to the (mostly) superficial and generally non-lethal act of causing deep scratches or cuts to the arms or legs in order to either release endorphins, garner attention, or as an act of self-loathing. 219.90.189.90 (talk) 15:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Hypovolemia

I added a ref to hypovolemia, since technically it's the overriding term (per the ICD). I don't think a merge is necessary, since hypovolemia refers to the broader defecit, whereas exsanguination refers specifically to death due to that defecit (like electric shock vs. electrocution). Bullzeye^{Complaint Dept./Contribs)} 08:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Insanguination vs. exsanguination

Insanguination redirects here but is not mentioned in the article. Cburnett 17:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Insanguinate seems to mean to make bloody - blood all over the place. So the redirect is bad, akin to the purpose of life redirecting to the meaning of life, since the two are related but not the same. Correction would involve inputting original material - so following the rules means tolerating the error. - 50.82.34.254 (talk) 06:52, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Halal & Kashrut

The language on this seems confusing to me.

"Slaughter by exsanguination is mandated by Judaic kashrut (kosher) and Islamic halal dietary laws. While Islamic law forbids this practice, there is an active debate within the Jewish community regarding its permissibility."

SO.. its mandated by tradition and religious law, but forbidden in Islamic law and controversial in the Jewish community? This paragraph seems to contradict itself. --76.103.178.225 (talk) 09:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Tone

I know this isn't much of an article, but what is here could be cleaned up as it is. 74.185.249.234 (talk) 02:24, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Slaughter by exsanguination is mandated by Judaic kashrut (kosher) and Islamic halal dietary laws. There is an active debate within the Muslim and Jewish communities regarding the permissibility of using various methods of pre-slaughter paralysis.

No active debate exists within the Jewish community of this nature and certainly not at the London Board of Shehitah whose web site is given. The facts are as follows: Exsanguination as a slaughter method is slow and cruel if a sticking knife is used that has two sharp edges and a point. Sometimes only one jugular vein is cut. Therefore stunning is mandatory by eg US law. This is not the case when a long, sharp knife is used to cut two jugular veins and two carotid arteries at the same time. The blood loss is so massive and fast that lack of a fresh supply of oxygenated blood to the brain ensures that unconsciousness sets in fast. Therefore the method is defined in The US Humane slaughter act as humane. Due to economic pressure many animals are not properly stunned. This is why it is important that exsanguination, preferably with a long sharp knife as used by Jews and Mulims must occur as soon as possible without delay after stunning, as stunning is not reliable. Debates on this were at their height in the 1890s. More research has been done on Jewish slaughter than on any other method. There is no debate on the possibility of using pre-slaughter paralysis and certainly not at Shehitah UK. No other reference exists reflecting any debate within the Jewish and Muslim communities. Therefore I am erasing the false claim. ^^^^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by RPSM (talk • contribs) 09:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

References

Link to German Page

The German wikipedia does not have an own page for the concept but a subpart of "Bleeding" https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blutung#Tod_durch_Verbluten ("Verbluten" is the German common word for "Bleeding out", while "Blutung" means "Bleeding") I tried to add the link, but failed as Blutung is already linked to by Bleeding. - I am "Ben Fuchs" in the German Wikipedia. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Ben_fuchs 2003:6A:6E82:FC00:196A:D62C:1804:36F2 (talk) 22:07, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

My addition to the section describing use in animal slaughter

I added it because i also removed a subtle but disruptive little passage from Captive bolt pistol. I decided that it was necessary to explain the error of the aforementioned passage, and that here was more appropriate. However, as i knew of no scientific studies in its regard, i also included a {{cite}} tag.
— JamesEG (talk) 08:12, 10 June 2015 (UTC)