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Single or Not?
[edit]So this wasn't released as a CD single or digital download (apart from the album), and it did not have a radio add date. What makes this a single? Candyo32 22:40, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- I would wait a while before labeling a promo. --Cprice1000talk2me 23:05, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- But it didn't receive any form of release besides on the album. So really it is just an album track. Candyo32 23:26, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- I was wondering this myself. But the thing is, it was released digitally on November 19th, Link as it came out the 22nd in the US. I think we should just wait and see for now. Maybe demote it to promo single until we have any more information. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT 23:39, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Well the Amazon.com source does not say Express - Single, rather Express -From the Album Burlesque Original Motion Picture Soundtrack [+Digital Booklet], which also was released says released November 19. I'm believing the album was released digitally the 19th (to coincide with the big box office weekend) and physically the 22nd (because stores don't stock the new releases until Tuesday). Candyo32 23:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. I don't know. Maybe just demote it to song, or re-direct it for now until we know something else. It's not that notable anyway. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT 23:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Amazon, unlike iTunes, would simply just say "Express" and does not add "- Single" to it. --Cprice1000talk2me 01:12, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
- I wasn't literally referring to the title, as Amazon and iTunes differentiate on that aspect. I meant that on Amazon, it is not sold as a single, rather as only a part of the Burlesque soundtrack. On iTunes right now, it is still not sold as a single and is only a part of the Burlesque soundtrack there too. There is no concrete conclusion that this is a single except for that blogs reported it when it was first leaked. I'm almost convinced now that this is just a song from the album. Now the choice is either to Change to song template, but only if more reviews and composition are filled to make it meet WP:NSONGS. If not, it needs to be a Redirect it to Burlesque. Candyo32 04:39, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
- I would also like to point out that currently all the reviews here are from reviews of the album, not for the song alone and should not be used as an excuse to keep the article (i.e. a "well sourced" article can be made for any song with existing reviews of albums). I think the article should be merged, especially because it was never available as a standalone single.Fixer23 (talk) 01:18, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
- I wasn't literally referring to the title, as Amazon and iTunes differentiate on that aspect. I meant that on Amazon, it is not sold as a single, rather as only a part of the Burlesque soundtrack. On iTunes right now, it is still not sold as a single and is only a part of the Burlesque soundtrack there too. There is no concrete conclusion that this is a single except for that blogs reported it when it was first leaked. I'm almost convinced now that this is just a song from the album. Now the choice is either to Change to song template, but only if more reviews and composition are filled to make it meet WP:NSONGS. If not, it needs to be a Redirect it to Burlesque. Candyo32 04:39, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
- Amazon, unlike iTunes, would simply just say "Express" and does not add "- Single" to it. --Cprice1000talk2me 01:12, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. I don't know. Maybe just demote it to song, or re-direct it for now until we know something else. It's not that notable anyway. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT 23:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Well the Amazon.com source does not say Express - Single, rather Express -From the Album Burlesque Original Motion Picture Soundtrack [+Digital Booklet], which also was released says released November 19. I'm believing the album was released digitally the 19th (to coincide with the big box office weekend) and physically the 22nd (because stores don't stock the new releases until Tuesday). Candyo32 23:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- I was wondering this myself. But the thing is, it was released digitally on November 19th, Link as it came out the 22nd in the US. I think we should just wait and see for now. Maybe demote it to promo single until we have any more information. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT 23:39, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- But it didn't receive any form of release besides on the album. So really it is just an album track. Candyo32 23:26, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've also seen that they are sending "Show Me How You Burlesque" to radio, so maybe they are going to release that instead. I still think this could be noteable with a few additions. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT 15:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
So Slow Down Baby and Oh Mother are reffered as fourth and fifth single, why is not express listed as single, what makes Express a promo and SDB and Oh Mother not, even Express has charted in more countries than SDB that only was released in AUS. xtina has performed Express on AMAs Awards, X Factor UK, Dancing whit the stars, she didnt do a single performens whit SDB or Oh Mother! Please change Express to a single. --91.154.96.141 (talk) 15:45, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Both songs you mentioned had official releases, while this one never had a real release. Both songs were released via a cd single. The song only had a digital release a few days before the soundtrack's release. And just because a song has charted, and has been performed live doesn't make it a single. ℥nding·start 16:34, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
there nothing that is a real release, and it doesnt need to be release as cd to be a single, it was the first single from Burlesque released digitally! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.98.39 (talk) 11:59, 4 February 2011 (UTC) ¨
So why is rihannas song Raining Men that only been released to urban radio (not even released digitally or cd) is listed as a single!!?? and express that has been released digitally and to radio and charted in various contries listed as a promo, whats the difference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.98.39 (talk) 15:32, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- "Express" was never sent to radio, while "Raining Men" was. This song was released as part of the album, that is the only type of release it received. A normal song. ℥nding·start 04:50, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Requested move
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: not moved Kotniski (talk) 19:44, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Express (Christina Aguilera song) → Express (song) — There is currently no article under that name. (It redirects to an artist article) Therefore the less specific name can be used for this article.Fixer23 (talk) 03:17, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- oppose according to the article history, "express (song)" was merged away, so the edit history should be moved somewhere. Further, having multiple uses on wikipedia, this should be a disambiguation page, so "express (song)" should redirect to express dab page. 184.144.160.77 (talk) 05:13, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I follow.Fixer23 (talk) 23:48, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- Express (song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has an edit history, and was apparently merged somewhere. Further, since Wikipedia has information about more than one song called 'Express', then "Express (song)" should redirect to the disambiguation page at Express (as an {{R from partial disambiguation}}), where all songs that have an article which contains information about them should be listed. (This need not be a full article, it could be a section or paragraph; or album with that song). 184.144.164.115 (talk) 06:05, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- Express (song) redirects to a band's page. There is currently no other article on a song by the name Express.Fixer23 (talk) 01:55, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
- Express (song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has an edit history, and was apparently merged somewhere. Further, since Wikipedia has information about more than one song called 'Express', then "Express (song)" should redirect to the disambiguation page at Express (as an {{R from partial disambiguation}}), where all songs that have an article which contains information about them should be listed. (This need not be a full article, it could be a section or paragraph; or album with that song). 184.144.164.115 (talk) 06:05, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
I think Express (song) is best if there is no page there. If it's a redirect, can't we just delete that page and then include a note in the article with the link to the band? --Cprice1000talk2me 23:04, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
- There doesn't even need to be one, since there is no article for that song.Fixer23 (talk) 03:57, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Well, it should be moved to "Express (song)", but since that is a redirect page, a note should be added the Express (song) page when we move it just for convenience. (The song called "Express" by the the band that 'Express (song)' redirects to is a popular song, as it reached #4 on the Hot 100) --Cprice1000talk2me 04:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
It seems this is not the clearly most notable song called "Express" - the other one is almost as prominent, even if it doesn't currently have a separate article. I would send Express (song) to the Express disambiguation page, and keep this article titled as it is.--Kotniski (talk) 12:26, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- Note - I've now redirected Express (song) to the main Express page, since there are at least three songs by that title listed there.--Kotniski (talk) 12:36, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Express Cover Art
[edit]--91.154.96.195 (talk) 16:48, 28 January 2011 (UTC) Why was the single cover art deleted, it has been revealed already.
- No source that's it's real. ℥nding·start 17:29, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
no source express is a promo...--91.154.98.39 (talk) 15:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- No source its a single. ℥nding·start 04:50, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
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