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about 700,000 molecular layers

I find this figure oddly exact. "The width of the EZ depends on the properties of the surface and ambient conditions and may reach hundreds of microns." ^[1] Did this figure come from a single experimental study? A more general estimate of width should be inserted. CyreJ (talk) 13:41, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed! There is no cited source for this "700,000 layers" figure, and the body of research clearly indicates that the size of the exclusion zone varies radically (by orders of magnitude) with materials, environmental conditions, and not yet well understood variables. "May reach hundreds of microns" is a far more factually centered assertion. I'd possibly even suggest "has been observed to extend to hundreds" instead of "may reach hundreds" for complete accuracy, as there is not yet a well-established upper bound for this phenomenon. 174.31.17.191 (talk) 05:38, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 14:14, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Elton, Daniel C.; Spencer, Peter D.; Riches, James D.; Williams, Elizabeth D. (17 July 2020). "Exclusion Zone Phenomena in Water—A Critical Review of Experimental Findings and Theories". International Journal of Molecular Sciences. 21 (14): 5041. doi:10.3390/ijms21145041. ISSN 1422-0067.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

Illustrative

The TEDxGuelphU presentation by professor Gerald Pollack is rather illustrative of the theories. This may be useful as an addition to the text. VanBuren (talk) 17:49, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Elton, Daniel C.; Spencer, Peter D.; Riches, James D.; Williams, Elizabeth D. (17 July 2020). "Exclusion Zone Phenomena in Water—A Critical Review of Experimental Findings and Theories". International Journal of Molecular Sciences. 21 (14): 5041. doi:10.3390/ijms21145041. ISSN 1422-0067.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

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