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Reviewer: Johanna (talk · contribs) 03:05, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Second on my "to review" list. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 03:05, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Comments from nominator
[edit]Thank you Johanna for taking time out of your schedule to review this, I am looking forward to seeing the outcome and reading your views. Wes Mouse ✒ 00:49, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Comments from reviewer
[edit]- In the infobox, why does it say "final date" where there is no first date? If it was all on one date (which it seems like it was…?) is there a way to change that parameter?
- The infobox template used {{Infobox Song Contest}} which is pre-structured. The concert itself was held on 31 March 2015, but was not broadcast live on that date. Wes Mouse ✒
- I don't love the use of the word "pre-recorded" with a link to live television. Assuming this is an event without an album release, I would put something like "was a live television concert programme…"
- Be sure that the lead echoes the structure of the article and includes at least some information from all the major sections.
- Link to BBC if you're going to link to the other one.
- In which section do you mean? Wes Mouse ✒
- In the lead. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 18:08, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- In which section do you mean? Wes Mouse ✒
- "For more details on the host city, see London." This is unnecessary--most people will know what London is. :) Just put a link in the body of the section and it should be fine.
- Also, link to Eventim Apollo and Hammersmith in that section.
- Why do you have the work parameters in the article as web addresses (i.e. bbc.co.uk)? If I'm not mistaken, shouldn't it be in plain text as in BBC?
- I'm not sure which section you mean. Wes Mouse ✒
- It's everything--a reference concern. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 18:08, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure which section you mean. Wes Mouse ✒
- I find having both the work and the publisher often repetitive, but you can keep it if you want to.
- I'm not sure which section you mean. Wes Mouse ✒
- Once again, it's a reference thing. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 18:08, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure which section you mean. Wes Mouse ✒
- "similar to the show Congratulations: 50 Years of the Eurovision Song Contest which took place in 2005." This is not an independent clause--it should not be separated by a semicolon.
- The semicolon is there because that is how the previous anniversary show was stylised, as is also used in the article title for 50th anniversary show. Or do you mean the other one that separates "sixty-years of the Eurovision Song Contest" from "similar to the show"? Wes Mouse ✒
- Yes, I meant that one, but it appears to have been fixed somehow.
- The semicolon is there because that is how the previous anniversary show was stylised, as is also used in the article title for 50th anniversary show. Or do you mean the other one that separates "sixty-years of the Eurovision Song Contest" from "similar to the show"? Wes Mouse ✒
- "At that time…" at what time?
- "Executive producer of the 2015…" Either remove the two commas or replace the phrase with "Edgar Böhm, executive producer of the 2015 Eurovision Song Contest…"
- Is "Format" the best title for this whole level two header section?
- Yes. This is a section heading used on all contest related articles under WikiProject Eurovision. Wes Mouse ✒
- "Norton, co-hosted" should be "Norton, who co-hosted"
- If that file is at the show, specify that in the caption.
- Does "Tickets" need its own subsection?
- I don't suppose it does. Any recommendation on where to relocate this content? Wes Mouse ✒
- Whatever you've done is fine. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 18:08, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- I don't suppose it does. Any recommendation on where to relocate this content? Wes Mouse ✒
- "The show" is a bit of an informal title--maybe it should be "Show" or "Programme"
- I've changed it to "Programme". Sounds better that way. Wes Mouse ✒
- After changing the header to "programme", and closer examination, I have made the new header into a level 2, and changed the "participating countries" into a level 3. These sections work well together as they are regarding the main concert itself. Wes Mouse ✒
- The link to broadcast delay at the beginning of this section is a bit of a WP:EASTER
- I thought that too. However, I couldn't find any article for "recorded live". The nearest to it was broadcast delay. Any suggestions on improving this? Wes Mouse ✒
- I think no link is fine. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 18:08, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- I thought that too. However, I couldn't find any article for "recorded live". The nearest to it was broadcast delay. Any suggestions on improving this? Wes Mouse ✒
- Why is the "draw" column in the table numbered "01", "02", etc? Is that a British thing or something?
- I assume so, yes. It is to depict the running order of the performances, similar to how it is done for the main annual contests such as Eurovision Song Contest 2015. Wes Mouse ✒
- In the "broadcasting unknown" section, why are there flags?
- Ref 26 (this) is dead.
- I'll webarchive that link (hopefully that will do the trick). Wes Mouse ✒
- Yes, that worked. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 18:08, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'll webarchive that link (hopefully that will do the trick). Wes Mouse ✒
@Wesley Mouse: Okay, I'm done. Looks like a nice article. I can pass after you clean this stuff up. :) Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 03:49, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Johanna: I have addressed the issues raised and left some questions on a few of them. Thank you for taking the time to review this, really appreciate it. Wes Mouse ✒ 04:16, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Wesley Mouse: See my responses above. Any substantial responses that I did not answer are fine. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 18:08, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Johanna: OK I have rewritten the lead section to include major points from the article. The references have been cleaned up, with only the eurovision.tv ones being left as they are; because the website eurovision.tv is a publication owned by the EBU. I think I've addressed all the points above, but if there are any I have missed then please let me know. Thank you. Wes Mouse ✒ 10:14, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Wesley Mouse: Wonderful. Pass. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 16:20, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Johanna: OK I have rewritten the lead section to include major points from the article. The references have been cleaned up, with only the eurovision.tv ones being left as they are; because the website eurovision.tv is a publication owned by the EBU. I think I've addressed all the points above, but if there are any I have missed then please let me know. Thank you. Wes Mouse ✒ 10:14, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Wesley Mouse: See my responses above. Any substantial responses that I did not answer are fine. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 18:08, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Final assessment
[edit]- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail: