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Reviewer: HumanxAnthro (talk · contribs) 03:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
As someone who has heard a lot about this series, plus was kind of intrigued by the trailers, I'm psyched to review this. I'm only partially-way through this, but I already have a lot to say, so, here goes...
- I find this article to use overly-long sentences sometimes. For example, the following, but please check for others:
- "The series follows Rue Bennett (Zendaya), a recovering teenage drug addict who struggles to find her place in the world, and follows a group of high school students through their experiences of identity, trauma, drugs, self-harm, family, friendships, love, and sex."
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- "The show has received numerous awards, including the British Academy Television Award for Best International Programme and the TCA Award for Outstanding Achievement in Drama, and for her performance, Zendaya won a Primetime Emmy Award and a Satellite Award for Best Actress in a Drama Series."
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm sense a potential copyvio issue with how the premise of the series is being presented. I find it to be way too close to how a Deadline.com piece describe the series.
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia: "follows a group of high school students through their experiences of identity, trauma, drugs, self-harm, family, friendships, love, and sex."
- Deadline: "Euphoria, based on the Israeli series from HOT, follows a group of high school students as they navigate drugs, sex, identity, trauma, social media, love and friendship."
- While the Wikipedia sentence obviously is not the exact same sentence as Deadline's, it feels really close to be a potential copyright issue. This could just be my interpretation of it, though.
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:29, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- "The series covers the relationship between Rue and a trans woman, Jules Vaughn (Hunter Schafer), who attempts to help Rue. Additional characters appear throughout the series, such as Rue's childhood friend Lexie Howard (Maude Apatow), and high school dropout and drug dealer Fezco (Angus Cloud)." Why is this after the paragraph about the reception and release and not in the same first paragraph about the show's premise?
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- "Euphoria is a co-production of The Reasonable Bunch, A24, Little Lamb, DreamCrew, and HBO Entertainment". Wait, HBO is a co-producer? I thought this sentence was about who was co-producing with HBO.
- I suppose it's semantics but it's designed to be a co-production of all of them. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Jim Kleverweis and Adel "Future" Nur are listed as executive producer in the series infobox and Futon Critic page about the series, but he is not credited in the "Production team" section. I'm assuming "Future the Prince" is referring to Adel Nur, but this needs to be clarified.
- I thought long about who to include and I decided on including the people in the list based on assumed impact and blue links. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Additionally, the editors, producers, and cinematographers are not discussed and source in the production team section, even though they are listed in the infobox.
- I couldn't find a good source to back up the people serving those roles. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Half of the production team section is more of a timeline of development events, not necessarily info about the production team.
- A symptom of me attempting to include the material that used to be on that page with the new material. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:29, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- "Levinson sought out Zendaya for the role of Rue, and she reportedly liked the script.[5]" Can you timecode this to make it easier for readers to verify?
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- I find the Production section in general to get repetitive in its prose. "On [insert date], it was reported" and "On [insert date], it was announced".
- Not sure what I'm expected to do about this. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- "with the first table read on March 11.[19]However, the COVID-19 pandemic" There is a space needed here. Take a guess where it is.
- Fixed by someone else. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- While I won't get too deep into the episode summaries just yet (I want to focus on other parts of the article), the following episode notes needs citations to secondary sources:
- Wasn't sure how to do this. There is a potential source to cite here, cheatsheet.com, but I didn't see it as reputable.elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- "The title of this episode is a reference to the 2002 Nas song "Made You Look"."
- "The title of this episode is a reference to the 1999 single "The Next Episode" from Dr. Dre featuring Snoop Dogg."
- "The Theater and its Double": "The title of the episode is a reference to a book of the same name by French playwright Antonin Artaud."
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- The paragraph in the "Episode titles" section about the "Bonnie and Clyde" also needs to be cited to ref 40, even if that citation is used in the episode list. The episode itself is not gonna cut it.
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- And while were on the episode titles, the Rauschenberg sentences cited by Ref 36 are not verified by the citation. The citation is just a page about Rauschenberg's painting; it does not specify the TV series episode was named after it.
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- The critical response sections also suffers from being repetitive in it proses. "[Critic name] of [source] praised..."
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- "Praised is also overused in this section.
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- The following sentences are not backed up by any review sources currently used:
- "The first of the series' two special episodes, "Trouble Don't Last Always", received widespread critical acclaim for its writing, performances, and shift in tone and content from the first season."
- "The second of the two special episodes, "Fuck Anyone Who's Not a Sea Blob", also received critical acclaim, with particular praise for Schafer's performance and writing, as well as the episode's distinctive directorial approach, emotional resonance, and exploration of trans identity.""
- Statements like those should be held up by the other sentences in the paragraph. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:28, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- ""keep its focus narrow".[71]Jamila Stewart of Vogue_(magazine) stated that Euphoria still has a palpable impact on where fashion trends fall today.[72]" Spot the obvious formatting issues here. And I have no clue what this opinion means.
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:28, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Why, in the third paragraph, are publication names not italicized when those same names were italicized previously and in the refs?
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- We never use user scores of anything because they are non-notable, so why are we using Doubon.com user scores and RT's audience ratings?
- I thought of the exact same thing. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Some more comments
- The notes for episodes 3 and 7, and season 2's episode 17 still need citations from independent sources
- Removed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- The statement cited by Ref 57 is also not in citation given. The source does not state it references those pamphlets.
- Removed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Same with Refs 52, 54, 59, 61, 64, one of which is an unreliable genius.com page. Check for any others.
- Removed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- All the awards in the awards section check successfully for verification, but I would specify for the Make-Up Artists Best Contemporary Hair Styling award that it was specifically for specials; there's another award for that for television series.
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Ref 148 gives me a blank page.
- Doesn't for me. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- References for producers listed in the infoboxs?
- Cited in the production section. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- I meant the soundtrack infoboxes, sorry. 👨x🐱 (Nina CortexxCoco Bandicoot) 23:48, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- No worries; removed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 01:06, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- I meant the soundtrack infoboxes, sorry. 👨x🐱 (Nina CortexxCoco Bandicoot) 23:48, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Where is the reference for I'm Tired's Feb. 28 date? The genius.com news source about it does not specify, making it seem like it was released on the same day as "Yeh I Fuckin Did It"
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- What is the reliability of Film Music Reporter? It's a wordpress blog.
- Fixed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
👨x🐱 (Nina CortexxCoco Bandicoot) 18:11, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm passing this for GA. All of the sources are reliable and the prose is readable and understandable. For FA, I would recommend more representation of more reviews for completeness, plus the episode summaries prose could feel a little smother and less episode-guide-y. 👨x🐱 (Nina CortexxCoco Bandicoot) 15:46, 19 April 2022 (UTC)