Talk:Euphemia Lamb

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Did you know... that Euphemia Lamb (pictured) had more of a sex life "than the rest of us put together" according to John Maynard Keynes?

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Birth name and date

Her 1906 marriage record with Henry Taylor Lamb gives her name as 'Nina Euphemia Forrest'- such a record should surely reflect her legal name rather than incorporating a mere nickname. The record of a 1934 marriage between Edward T. N. Grove and Anne E. Forrest (as mentioned and sourced in the article) also gives her name as Anne E. Lamb. Similarly, there is a 1957 death record for an Anne E. Grove, aged 68, corroborating the article's sourced statement.

As for her uncertain origins: there is a birth record for Annie Euphemia Forrest in 1887, at Ormskirk, Lancashire; the 1901 census shows Annie E. Forrest living in Dickenson Road, Chorlton, South Lancashire, with her mother, Annie, of Scottish origin, and sister, Lillian W. Forrest; her father is not listed at the same address. Her place of birth is given as Southport, Lancashire (plausibly the same district as Ormskirk for recording purposes?), and birth year as 1887. Dickenson Road, Chorlton appears on modern maps as in the Greenheys (now Chorlton-on-Medlock) area.

The above suggests that 'Euphemia' was, in fact, her middle name, and it is likely her first name was Annie ('Nina' perhaps adopted as being more stylish, alongside the alleged birth on a boat headed for Bombay?). As it's all original research, naturally I don't propose to insert any of this into the article, but for anyone's interest I thought it worth putting here, given her murky origins as detailed in the article proper! Ashiyura (talk) 19:54, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for looking into this. I will do some further research and maybe we can include some of this in the article. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:31, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello (this is the first time anyone's responded to anything I've put on a talk page- at least so quickly!); unfortunately as I came across the above details I couldn't find anything myself to corroborate them in published sources (apart from, perhaps, the place in which she was said to have been raised), all of which seem to adhere to the 'Nina Forrest' and 'she was nicknamed Euphemia' points as given in the article, which I certainly hesitate to say are categorically incorrect (that would be very presumptuous, after all!) given the status of some of the published sources/ their authors. It would be nice if something official did clear up the mysteries, though! The article (which I see is virtually all your work) does make for a very interesting read either way. Ashiyura (talk) 22:18, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In an addition to the above: probate records for the year 1957 include the following entry: 'GROVE, Anne Euphemia of Stoke House St Mary Bourne Hampshire, single woman [ed.- reflecting her divorced status] died 26 January 1957 at The Royal Hampshire County Hospital Winchester'. This, it would seem to me, corroborates our suspicions as outlined above, but of course no published sources exist including these details, so can't be added to the article proper. Ashiyura (talk) 15:39, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]