Talk:Ether addiction

Developing the article

I'll leave it to others regarding what sort of messagebox/es to place atop this talk page. And at this timeI'm not in a position to assist much with the article development beyond one contribution, namely the creation of a 'Further reading' section and the placement therein of some resources. At time of writing this, I have no idea how much verifiable information is out there. I know only that in a book I'm currently reading, I encountered reference to ether drinking in the 1800s. I'll list that book. The point is of course that clearly there is a body of knowledge out there, and probably quite a large body of knowledge at that. And the first thing to do is to create a list of resources to utilise. The second thing to do is to utilise them. Wotnow (talk) 02:58, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

possible link

Erowid's sections are usually pretty good, perhaps add <http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ether/>? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.194.82 (talk) 00:53, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Not really about the addiction

I opened this article expecting to find information about addiction to ether: how long it takes to develop, what the withdrawal symptoms are, how the effects of ether are different between an addict and a non-addict, how long it takes to recover from the addiction, what cures are used for a recovery. Instead, what I find is an article about the history of ether recreational use, with none of the information about the addiction itself. I suggest either to change the title of the article to "Recreational use of ether" or rewrite it completely.

Note that I cannot rewrite it because I don't know the data I was expecting to find in this article. If I knew them, I would have not looked for the article in the first place. Devil Master (talk) 16:46, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I would like to note that this article is linked to in places where it would be appropriate to link to "Recreational use of ether". Which is pretty much what this is. SO the name should reflect that. 08:32, 11 March 2013 (UTC)24.189.46.33 (talk) 08:32, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree. This is not technically addiction, there being no physiological addiction. The article should be renamed as previously suggested to Recreational use. --Tallard (talk) 15:49, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

The Irish consumed 17,000 gallons per minute!

Or did they? We'll never know since the text is intentionally unclear to try to slander the Irish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.228.116.228 (talk) 02:52, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Time looping

I have removed the unexplained claim that ether intoxication can cause "time looping". I assume that whoever put it there did not intend literally that ether can cause you to go back in time (but who knows; someone might have intended that, I suppose). Probably it meant some subjective sensation, but from a cursory search, I don't find any evidence that this is an accepted description of whatever it was that was meant.

If restored, please add both an explanation of what is meant, and a reliable source. --Trovatore (talk) 17:32, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Ether was usually diluted using boiled water?

The article currently states, "Ether was usually diluted using boiled water". How is this possible considering the boiling point of ether is 35 °C, significantly below the boiling point of water, 100 °C? Wouldn't the ether immediately vaporize upon contact with boiling water, or at the very least evaporate away before the boiling water cooled down enough to drink safely? Or does "boiled water" mean the water was heated to its boiling point and then cooled? ChemNerd (talk) 18:55, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

@ChemNerd: yes, it does. The article was translated from Polish. "Boiling water" seems to mistakenly stand for "gotowana woda", which actually means the water heated to its boiling point (supposedly to kill bacteria) and then cooled. In Polish the proper phrase for "boiling water" would be "gotująca się woda", "wrząca woda" or (simplest) "wrzątek". I doubt whether it is at all meaningful here (in this context) that the water was boiled and cooled. Marcowy Człowiek (talk) 17:45, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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Irrelevant title, poorly written, etc.

In addition to the need for globalizing (as per the hat note), this article is also otherwise pretty poor (even ignoring the lack of citations).

One gripe I have is it is mentioned that kapliczki means "chapels" in Polish (at the end of the History section), but the term in the context of ether consumption actually seems to refer to something resembling a speakeasy or just a bar with a doorman/bouncer ("Illegal 'kapliczki' (chapels) where ether was served were located in private houses, usually guarded by a sober person") despite the consumption of ether apparently being socially acceptable. However, I don't speak Polish so I can't check the sources for the NCBI article I cited here, but maybe someone else can look into it. Maybe the term was used ironically.

That being said, this article is overall pretty poorly written, and the current title is almost irrelevant to the content, as user:Devil Master mentioned a whole 9 years ago. As it stands, the page is titled about addiction, but actually serves as almost entirely a history lesson in ether consumption. I think it may be beneficial to split this page into a redone "Ether consumption" article and a separate "Ether consumption in Europe" article. The former could be more focused on the medical aspects of ether consumption in general, contain a much broader history, and include a section about addiction. The latter could contain a more detailed history similar to this article's current state. Adamthedog (talk) 22:54, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

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