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Review: April 8, 2020. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Espenberg volcanic field appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 May 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the largest maars (example pictured) on Earth, found at the Alaskan volcanic field of Espenberg, formed when magma explosively interacted with ice in the ground?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Espenberg.

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:25, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that the largest maars on Earth at Espenberg (example pictured) formed when magma interacted with ice in the ground?~~

Improved to Good Article status by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 10:00, 9 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1: ... that the largest maars on Earth at Espenberg (example pictured) formed when magma explosively interacted with ice in the ground?

It's a GA so it's an easy pass in all kinds of ways, except for this, Jo-Jo Eumerus: in the article I read "They form when magma interacts explosively with surrounding rocks", and later that's specified for these maars as "permafrost. But your hook has "ice in the ground", with a link to permafrost, and permafrost isn't really "ice in the ground"--it's frozen ground, really. If you can tweak that one way or another, I could easily pass it. (And while you're at it, in "The abundant ice would have produced a limited amount of water", "abundant" and "limited" seem slightly contradictory to me.) Thanks, Drmies (talk) 00:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Drmies: Oy. Well, the thing is that it explicitly takes ice in the ground to induce the explosions, not merely "frozen ground". I've added a bit of explanation on the latter. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:38, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, Jo-Jo Eumerus, but that still leaves me wondering whether the piped link to "permafrost" is correct in the hook. And if you're going to consider that, maybe you can stick in "explosions" one way or another? ;) Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:02, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies: Added a bit about explosions. Regarding the link, the permafrost page keeps talking about water ice dependent structures so despite the definition implying "does not necessarily contain frozen water" I think it's reasonable to say that frozen water (=ice) is a defining trait of permafrost. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:19, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Let's go with ALT1; explosions are always good. Drmies (talk) 14:28, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Drmies: Of note, I haven't done the QPQ here yet; I'll go now to get one... Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:59, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the QPQ. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Haha thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus. Drmies (talk) 15:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Shouldn't this article be titled "Espenberg volcanic field"? According to the Geographic Names Information System, Espenberg is a community on the Seward Peninsula. Volcanoguy 20:23, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. Do note that this is a DYK nomination and I've seen some vagaries happening when moving articles at DYK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. The name Espenberg in Alaska is more closely tied to the cape, and probably more importantly tied to the community. "Espenberg" should redirect to one of those, and this article should be renamed. Dleit Ḵaa (talk) 00:31, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done Dkreisst (talk) 00:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've turned Espenberg into a disambiguation - many links refer to the volcanoes and Google has the volcanoes as the second item before the cape. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:52, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! Thank you. Dkreisst (talk) 21:42, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]