Talk:Esek Hopkins

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Name?

Whether right or wrong, a number of people have interpreted this name as "Ezek" or "Ezekiel" or "Ezekial" Hopkins. Student7 (talk) 19:42, 26 October 2008 (UTC) According to a book I read from one of his relatives (Charles Miller) in the early 1960s,the family was thinking about naming him "Ezekial" but they thought it was "too much of a mouthful" so they named him "Esek" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smwikert (talk • contribs) 16:42, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Family

Reporting his immediate family may be of some use. Reporting who they married, what kids they had, etc. etc. seems rather beside the point IMO. If the in-laws were truly famous, it would be another matter, I suppose. Student7 (talk) 12:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flag Portrait

Among some, he's most famous for the portrait (now in the U.S. Naval Academy Museum) which shows him standing in front of a version of the "First Navy Jack" (rattlesnake flag). Maybe an image of the original portrait could be included... AnonMoos (talk) 02:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Possible problems with early US whistleblower coverage

You may be interested in these Possible problems with early US whistleblower coverage. The articles I've been looking at relate to the last two paragraphs of "Revolutionary War Service" in this article.TuxLibNit (talk) 22:44, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Revolutionary War service

Possible problems with the final paragraph of this section: The source cited in footnote 8 does not support the statements in the first sentence of that paragraph. The source indicates that the resolution before Congress related to a LAWSUIT brought by Hopkins against Marven and Shaw, which the Continental Congress agreed to help them defend. And THIS source indicates that Hopkins was terminated from the Navy on January2, 1778, for a very different reason: criticism of his failure to capture an enemy vessel. If that source is accurate, Hopkins could not have been terminated for a different reason six months later. https://www.history.navy.mil/browse-by-topic/people/historical-figures/esek-hopkins.html

This article provides a fuller account putting all of the above into context: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/what-first-whistle-blowers-taught-america/598738/

Bias?

If Professor Allison Stanger's book and articles are to be believe this bio of Hopkins is extraordinarily charitable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.213.194.59 (talk) 14:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Minutes of Congress. Reliable source?

The minutes of Congress are a source for what was resolved in Congress, but not for Hopkins's subsequent institution of criminal libel proceedings against Marven and Shaw is single-handedly responsiblefor the resolution of Congress. That is an unsubstantiated inference by the editor. Creuzbourg (talk) 22:29, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was already tagged {How|How was this lawsuit responsible? What was the verdict or settlement? Why did Congress act as it did?|date=January 2022}, yet nothing has happened in year. I am going to remove the italicized sentence above, if a reliable source is not found soon. Creuzbourg (talk) 22:35, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Paulin, Charles O. (1906). The Navy of the American Revolution, claims that it was a Southern anti-Yankee conspiracy who removed him. This is very old research, and I will not add it to the text. But facts need to substantiated, otherwise they are factoids. Creuzbourg (talk) 22:40, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]