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Erika, Hitler's sock

This thingie was the marching song of the Waffen SS. It is banned in the current german military, years ago officers were discharged and punished for singing it. 91.83.22.244 (talk) 13:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A real shame, it's a very nice song and clearly has no blatant Nazi references. --JonnyLightning (talk) 02:38, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Some people on YouTube are claiming it was not an SS song and that it is not banned in Germany. Also, I can't find any information that the song is an SS song or banned in Germany. Also, since when does Wikipedia take the word of an unregistered user?- JustPhil 17:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Let´s put in in a decent picture. The song ist not banned in Germany. Neither in public, where it´s broadly known as a folksong, nor in the German Bundeswehr, where it is still common as a marching song. Just look up how many german folk artists did a cover of that song. They sure wouldn´t do that if it was banned —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.137.226 (talk) 23:10, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The text in the first second verse, line, is also frequently sung as "kleines Mägdelein", i.e. in English: young maiden — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niehorster (talk • contribs) 16:28, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Text

Accordong to my father-in-law (Wehrmacht, WWII) the text "blondes Mädchen" (blond girl) [first line, second verse}, was sung as "kleines Mägdelein" (young maiden). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niehorster (talk • contribs) 17:03, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In Origins of the song, a politically correct tone or slant of writing is obvious, ineed annoying, to me at least. It is quite incorrect to assume German folk of the time didn't appreciate the songs authoric origin, nor is it proper to assume the German volk so thick that they didn't see subtle messages. The song is simply enjoyable, even today, and quite frankly that is what people want, the song and similar military marsche are just that; fun. Of course, German military marches and song are part of that nations armed forces discipline, and will forevermore be so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.148.117.90 (talk) 10:03, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Invalid source

The first source ("Als ich gestern einsam ging ..." by Leonore Böhm, Der neue Tag (Grafenwöhr), 17 October 2008) for the 1930s claim is in my opinion invalid. If you go to the URL with the internet wayback machine. The article doesn't mention the song at all + especially nothing about 1930s. Sensorih1 (talk) 11:33, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The source does mention "Erika" and 1930 – on "Seite 4" (page 4). The article is also available here. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:28, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Erika being written by herms Neil

Was herms Neil sympathetic to the nazis when he wrote Erika and is Erika actually a Nazi song Ihatecollier (talk) 04:47, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

He was; read Herms Niel. The song is not inherently a Nazi song. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:54, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I mean it was created by a Nazi, but the lyrics themselves have nothing to directly do with Nazism Edskiash (talk) 20:04, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Even if it was created by a Nazi, this is a Wikipedia article and that shouldn't have any bearing on the content, Wikipedia is not here to pass judgement - (I forgot my username), 15:25 11 May 2023 (JST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.21.49.169 (talk) 06:26, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A few amendments

@Michael Bednarek: Since you speak German, does this have anything of value in your opinion? Machine translation shows info such as the song remaining unbanned (unspecified location, perhaps pertaining globally), and explicitly stating that it's tied with Nazism. Also another thing: most recordings and scores I've seen of this piece are in Gb major, so let's change the score maybe? Wretchskull (talk) 14:14, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The song was very popular during the Nazi regime, but it has still some popularity today. There's nothing in the lyrics that glorifies Nazi ideology. For further details, see de:Erika (Lied). I got the score from https://www.studentenliederboek.be/439-erika.html. It's available in a number of keys, but I don't see how a transposition by 1 semitone to G-flat major, with 6 flats, would be an improvement. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:38, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I looked it up. Apparently, the song is in A♭ Minor. AVeryUncoolGuy (talk) 04:59, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

wait, I read it wrong. A♭ Major, sorry. AVeryUncoolGuy (talk) 05:00, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As I said before, songs like this are played in many different keys. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:06, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Erika (song) → Erika
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Erika (song) may be the primary topic over all of the other Erikas. 2600:1700:6180:6290:D5F3:BB51:A0A0:C11A (talk) 23:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Based on what?—blindlynx 00:01, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The song itself is named after other more notable things named "Erika". BD2412 T 15:29, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Pageviews indicate an overwhelming WP:primary topic. This dab page averages 49 hits per day, most of whom are expecting the song. Station1 (talk) 01:51, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WikiNav. Most of the views from the disambiguation page go to the song. Theparties (talk) 18:37, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No primary topic here by long-term significance. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As usual, this is a debate between strictly mononymous usage and naturally disambiguated usage. If we look at the statistics less narrowly, the most commonly sought topics named Erika/Erica/... like this are biographies - the average reader probably recognizes this as a feminine given name, as the difference between the interest in the people is easily over an order of magnitude larger than the interest in the song. Short-circuiting this generally common name to a foreign historical song would most likely astonish a fair few of the readers. (Oppose) --Joy (talk) 14:24, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just as a side note, I just found out that there exist Erica James, Erika James and E. L. James whose real name is Erika. There's hardly a lack of ambiguity here. --Joy (talk) 14:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:ASTONISH (a proxy for long-term significance); this is a common personal name. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]