Talk:Erie Basin dry dock

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Contesting PROD

I'll start this off by saying that I'm not 100% sure that I've proved absolute and overwhelming notability beyond a reasonable doubt, but I feel that I've proven just enough notability to where I'd say that this would be best served going through AfD where it can have far more eyes upon it. I've found quite a few sources under just "Red Hook" and "Graving Dock", although many of those reference the whole IKEA purchase. I was initially going to add this to the page for Vigor Shipyards, but there would also be merit in redirecting it to Red_Hook,_Brooklyn#IKEA_in_Red_Hook. However the problems with the first is that VS is a company page rather than a page for the individual shipyard that contained the graving dock. The issue with the second is that it's primarily about the IKEA controversy and not really about the dock per se. I just think this would be better off as an AfD at this point if deletion were to continue.Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:56, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User:ReaderofthePack: It's stunning nobody has yet made an article about Erie Basin, "The busiest place in the Port of New York". As for this article, the same source says it was the first solid graving dock built in the United States; that it was eligible for inclusion in the National Register of Historic Places; and was likely the busiest dry dock in one of the busiest ports in the world. I don't see a problem. -- GreenC 04:33, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We now have Erie Basin, Brooklyn. In theory, this article might be merged into that one. However, IMO a separate article is preferable due to size/weight, this being the first such dock in the United States, and the IKEA controversy. In fact it turns out there were many dry docks and dry dock companies in Erie Basin, although I suspect this graving dock was special due to its age, size and construction. -- GreenC 23:53, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

A better name, currently Red Hook graving dock, is Erie Basin dry dock. It's the more specific location (Red Hook may have had other dry docks). And "graving dock" while technically accurate is less clear than "dry dock". Most companies doing business there used Dry Dock in their name (see article) which means notability and common usage. There were at least two physical docks, but WP:SINGULAR is preferred, and the company names are also singular. -- GreenC 04:22, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone is contesting the name change, then you can put in a name change discussion on the talk page - I don't normally edit articles like this, admittedly. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 14:25, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes anyone is free to discuss concerns, it can always be changed back. I don't normally edit urban infrastructure articles, either, but the few I have done so for have been rewarding and interesting. I'm particularly happy to discover it on Google Maps, which a preservationist compared to a chalk outline. -- GreenC 17:34, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]