Talk:Eric Thorne

A fact from Eric Thorne appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 May 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that although Eric Thorne was never a big star in London's West End, he was "a great favourite in the provinces", including as Baron Popoff (pictured) in The Merry Widow?

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Assessment

I'm assessing this as Start class. It could easily be improved to c-class, but an editor has resisted MOS corrections and has insisted on including in the article the obviously implausible fact about the supposedly unbroken run of 8 years, simply because an obituary asserted it. Touring seasons were never "unbroken" in those days, and obituaries were prone to hyperbole. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:56, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

La Poupée

The article does not mention that Thorne originated the role of Loremois in La Poupée in London. Here is a photo of him in the role. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:08, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Moonraker, because you don't know anything about theatre, you keep adding errors into the article. Please stop reintroducing them even after I point them out. La Poupée did not have a London revival in 1899 or Wearing, et al. would say so. There are other cities in England that had both Royalty Theatre and a Theatre Royal. Glasgow is one, but there are others. Doesn't the source make clear what city they are writing about? In any case, it is non-noteworthy trivia. All that is of interest is that he toured in the show in 1899. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:26, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ssilvers, you have such a vague way about you. You are talking about one alleged “error”, as alleged by you, which appears in all the obituaries of Thorne I found and also in David Stone’s short piece on him for “Who Was Who in the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company” at gsarchive.net. You eventually persuaded me that they were all wrong and you were right. If you had been more focussed, and indeed more polite, you could have done it more quickly. Moonraker (talk) 22:07, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit summaries, when I first tried to help you, were excessively impolite. BTW, I am still amazed that you do not list author names last before first in your citations, and that, when I tried to correct that for you, you edit warred to continue doing it wrong. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:14, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Citing sources#Citation style. Moonraker (talk) 07:09, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is embarrassing that you do not begin cites with last name first. Or at least you should be embarrassed.-- Ssilvers (talk) 00:24, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth?

For what it's worth: A Frederick Thomas Thorne, son of Albert Thorne and Anne, was baptised at St. Pauls, Bristol, Gloucester, England on 16 Sep 1866 according to the England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975, index on https://www.familysearch.org --Maarten1963 (talk) 20:42, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Maarten1963. It was definitely our man who died in 1922, and his age at death was given to the Registrar as sixty, so I think the more likely one is the Frederick Thomas Thorne born at Westminster on 6 February 1862. There were at least three men of the same name, and they all seem to be recorded both with and without the -e on the end of Thorne. I am just not keen on joining dots, so let’s just leave these comments on the Talk page. Moonraker (talk) 07:06, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]