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Section size for Eric Greitens (37 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	9,353	9,353
Early life and education	4,941	4,941
Navy career	7,122	7,122
Subsequent career	1,129	13,196
Nonprofit work	4,700	4,700
Books	7,367	7,367
Switch to the Republican Party	760	760
2016 Missouri gubernatorial election	7,547	7,547
Tenure and political positions	982	45,433
Cabinet	2,120	2,120
Infrastructure	2,426	2,426
Economic, labor, and regulatory issues	6,858	6,858
Abortion	5,931	5,931
Healthcare	4,927	4,927
Crime and policing	7,578	7,578
Low-income housing tax credits	1,428	1,428
Missouri National Guard	2,908	2,908
Other aspects	10,275	10,275
Scandals, misconduct, and resignation	43	38,655
Affair and invasion of privacy charge	5,860	29,172
Indictment	2,671	2,671
Dismissal of criminal charges	2,351	2,351
Special Investigative Committee report	3,787	3,787
Impeachment session and resignation	5,950	5,950
Investigation of St. Louis Circuit Attorney	6,465	6,465
Aftermath	2,088	2,088
Use of Confide app	4,212	4,212
Use of nonprofit's email list for political campaign	3,133	3,133
Campaign finance violations	2,095	2,095
2022 U.S. Senate campaign	10,010	10,010
Personal life	3,891	7,680
Affair and sexual assault allegations	1,589	1,589
Allegations of domestic abuse	2,200	2,200
Honors and awards	3,207	3,207
Publications	1,658	1,658
References	28	28
External links	2,548	2,548
Total	152,138	152,138

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Missing information

Can someone add a writeup concerning the subject's record of healing the sick with his holy touch and other miracles? I feel like the positive aspects of his career are not sufficiently covered. 24.182.239.226 (talk) 21:02, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:27, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Missing URL

On the chart at right where it says "Succeeded by Mike Parson," there is no embedded link to the Wiki page for Mike Parson, but there should be

That's because there's a link to Parson just above it for "Lieutenant". See MOS:DUPLINK. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 01:11, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bias

Wow, was the intro for this Wikipedia page cleaned up by the Greitens campaign to avoid discussing sexual the accusations as much as possible? It sure looks like it. The whole section reads like an advertisement for his campaign 216.15.53.221 (talk) 02:02, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The lead section is a summary of the entire article, which includes much more than sexual accusations. Do you have any specific recommendations for article improvement? —ADavidB 02:16, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading use of the phrase “no evidence of wrongdoing” is propaganda and violates Wikipedia principles

Governor Greitens resigned amidst a well-known scandal in which he was indicted for a felony when a woman he had an affair with alleged that he had made a video recording of their sex without her consent or knowledge. (She also alleged that he used the existence of this recording in a blackmail-like way and that he pressured her into rough sex acts she was unfamiliar with that were recorded, but there was no blackmail charge.) There was also an investigation into a campaign finance violation by his campaign involving failure to report certain large in-kind donations. A report used the phrase “no evidence of wrongdoing” to indicate a lack of evidence that Greitens had personal knowledge that a campaign finance violation for failure to report was occurring; there was only evidence of subordinates being aware of the donations and the failure to report them and not Greitens himself. This did not refer to any lack of evidence that the campaign violation occurred, let alone whether there was evidence supporting the felony indictment for non-consensual recording of sexual acts. However, Greitens, who continues to run for office, has used this phrase in sentences that are worded to imply that it applies to all the scandals that were going on at the time of his resignation, when in reality it didn’t even apply to the best-known one. There was yet another investigation into Greitens regarding whether he embezzled the donor list for his nonprofit veterans’ charity by taking it and using it to solicit political donations. His resignation, which was followed by dropped charges, occurred after a judicial order was made to disclose the identities of that nonprofit’s donors, and before such disclosure occurred. The phrase “no evidence of wrongdoing” was not used in any context that referred to this investigation, either.

I believe that it is important that this article is reviewed to ensure that the “no evidence of wrongdoing” quote is used fairly and in a non-misleading way, only when used with context indicating very clearly to what it refers.

47.24.183.113 (talk) 21:28, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tisaby pleaded guilty

William Tisaby "pleaded guilty to misdemeanor evidence tampering on Wednesday, a day before jury selection was set to start in his trial on seven felony counts including perjury.

Prosecutors dropped the felony charges against private investigator William Tisaby, replacing it with the one misdemeanor. Tisaby received a suspended sentence of one year of probation." ...

"Tisaby’s attorney, Jermaine Wooten, has called Tisaby “an honest and decent man” who is “very upset he’s being used as a scapegoat.”" Washington Times articles "Eric Greitens investigator pleads guilty to evidence tampering" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:7E70:E700:78E8:CD87:228:4CB1 (talk) 09:29, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]