Talk:Episodes (TV series)

Country of origin

My understanding of this field is that it should list only the country it was comissioned in (which would be the nationality, in this case, of the BBC). If this is true may I propose we remove 'United States' from the infobox? ~~ Peteb16 (talk) 17:13, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not saying you're wrong, but could you point to something that supports that view?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:24, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, to use an example of another Hat Trick Production, the article for Father Ted says the country of origin is United Kingdom, which seems fine to me. Even though its writers were Irish and it had an all Irish cast and was indeed set in and partially filmed in Ireland, it was comissioned by Channel 4 and produced by Hat Trick, both being British companies. ~~ Peteb16 (talk) 23:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I dunno, examples are nice, but they are not policy or even guidelines. Lots of articles do things wrong. The BBC press release (cited in the article) says: "Filming has begun on Episodes, a prime-time seven-part comedy series for BBC Two from the highly acclaimed writing partnership of David Crane (Friends) and Jeffrey Klarik (Mad About You), produced by Hat Trick Productions for Showtime (Nurse Jackie, The Tudors) and the BBC, for transmission later this year in both America and the UK." It's true that Hat Trick is a British company, but I don't think the citizenship of the production company matters, and the press release seems to indicate that the show was produced for a British company and an American company. What's wrong with leaving them both in as they are inasmuch as we don't really know what the right answer is. Another option is to pose the question somewhere on Wikipedia:WikiProject Television, if you can figure out where. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 00:56, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. :) For me, there's nothing wrong with leaving both in as long as it doesn't mislead anyone. The problem for me is, if I edit anything on Wikipedia, I compulsively try and make everything consistant. As you correctly point out the BBC press release does say it's made for BBC and Showtime. However, The X-Factor (UK) is made for ITV and TV3 and the article says that its country of origin is the United Kingdom only. So doesn't that make at least one of these articles inconsistant, and therefore misleading? ~~ Peteb16 (talk) 08:21, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

The problem with consistency in Wikipedia is there are too many articles and it's often hard to determine what constitutes consistency. That's why policies and guidelines are helpful because they dictate what's correct (although often unfortunately open to interpretation). That's also why I suggested that maybe we ask at one of the relevant projects, hoping to get an answer that makes some sense.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:34, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Can we at least agree that the first line of the article calling the show and American television sitcom is incorrect, and that it should be called something like a British-American co-produced television sitcom set in Los Angeles? Cymrog (talk) 00:22, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

British or American spelling

I've altered (twice) the word "programme", to make it consistent with the word "favor" used earlier in the same paragraph. As noted above, there's currently no agreement about whether the show is British, American or what, but the spelling of the article needs to be standardised. If a consensus is arrived at that the show is British, then all words should be changed to UK English ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 17:11, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

The show is a Showtime (US)/BBC (UK) co-production, produced by a British company but written by two (noted) American writers, and therefore neither solely American or British. However, it premiered on Showtime, is set in the US, filmed principally in the US and has a largely American cast. Moreover, the article is already in American English spelling. Given the balance would seem to tip to American English given these circumstances, which are as good as any for sorting this out, it would be my view that the article should remain in American English. One exception would be British spelling in the title of sources, which should always remain as is. Drmargi (talk) 17:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

It was not filmed in the US at all Drmargi, It was filmed at a UK studio, then on location in the UK and rendered using green screen technology. Effective wasn't it? It had me foxed for several episodes before I realised. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 17:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I would offer an alternative view on this. The show was commissioned by the British BBC, produced by the British company Hat-Trick and filmed exclusively in the UK with a mixed British and American cast. This is probably the most difficult ENGVAR choice I have seen in three years of editing, but I come down marginally on the side of British spelling. We will need many more comments before a concensus is reached. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 17:49, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Good call on your recent changes, Greenstuff - maybe we need a database of non-engvar alternatives to use in these circumstances... ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 21:31, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

New details about its production etc.

Hopeful it will be of some use.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/news/a549066/stephen-mangan-episodes-could-go-on-and-on.html

HERE IS THE BBC press release: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2012/episodes-series3.html

Broadcasting Dates

Why is "Broadcast" section providing dates and channel information for Australia? Whilst very interesting, should it not be reserved for 'Original' broadcast dates in the country/countries of origin? Stephend01 (talk) 13:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Stephend01,

According to WP:TVINTL guidelines, the Broadcast section of TV series pages should discuss the broadcast of a series in English-speaking countries. As such, that is why Australia is listed. I have revised the Broadcast section of over a dozen pages and from experience I have not included the original broadcast stations (in this case BBC and Showcase) because they are already discussed in the Lead and in the episode listing.

Thanks,

Forbesy 777 (talk) 21:27, 10 February 2015 (UTC)