Talk:England national football C team

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England C?

Why has this page been renamed as England C? As far as I'm aware the team is still known as the National Game XI- the FA's website still uses this name, as does the BBC. Unless anyone can provide a link to confirm that the team is officially known as England C I suggest changing it back to National Game XI. Simon KHFC 13:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merger?

No point in a merger, I think the article was created in good faith, but it is redundant. So I'm going to tag it for deletion.

It would seem that the name change from England National Game XI to England C was a touch premature. Bigmike 11:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, I did think of doing the same, but was unsure of the correct procedure for redundant articles. Simon KHFC 14:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-pro?

I doubt that any of the players in recent appearances of England C are semi-pro. They are full time, long term professionals, with no other employment. Even if there are some individuals for whom this is not the case, that i not the grounds f their inclusion, nor is it the qualifying feature for the team. Their eligibility for selection depends entirely on the league status of their teams, not their sources of income. The phrase "semi-professional" should only be used in historical references to the team, and not to ots more recent manifestations. Kevin McE (talk) 12:51, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I Disagree With the above as both Jason Walker and Paul Brown who both played for the England C team Tonight aginst Malta (17/02/09 ) Play for my Home town team of Barrow and are definetly NOT full time <

86.159.170.119 (talk) 21:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But the majority are full-time pro. I agree that a rename/rewording should happend, and the Category:England semi-pro international footballers should be renamed to something more fitting. --Jimbo^[online] 13:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's still an accurate description. It still requires players to be playing at a semi-professional level. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 17:33, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that the restriction is non-League (Conference or below). Many clubs at this level are fully pro, many players at clubs which are semi-pro are individually fully pro. Even if every club in the Conference were to be fully pro (and thus reach our notability criteria), players at that level would remain eligible for this team. Kevin McE (talk) 07:52, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

English representatives, or representatives of an English pyramid?

Obviously salaries at this level are not so high as to draw players from all over the world, and so the differences between the two are likely to be occasional. but is this a team of English players at non-league level, or is it a team of players at this level in the English pyramid? I note that Junior Agogo, who was born in Accra and has played full internationals for Ghana, is an alumnus of the team, but he was long term resident in UK and might hold a UK passport (no evidence of this in the public forum that I am aware of). Could an Englishman at a League of Wales team play for this side? Could a player with no grounds for UK citizenship, or whose nationality within the UK is clearly not English, be selected? Have either of those things, or a close equivalent, ever happened? And is there any justification for using playing for this team as grounds for determining that strance Wikipedia invention, an individual's "sporting nationality"? Kevin McE (talk) 07:52, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]