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Featured article?

Does it still deserve to be called so? I see 2 [citation needed] tags, 1 [peacock term] tag and one [not in citation given] tag. Someone pls fix those, else supporting statements should be removed. I don't edit articles on wildlife, I just check how good they are. Kailash29792 (talk) 19:33, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did much of the work on it many moons ago. The best thing about FA status is that it acts as an index point to measure future changes against. Will do so later today. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:45, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have to hold up my hand for the offending lead sentence. Actually I have learnt better since to just let the facts speak for themselves. I have dealt with 2 ^{[citation needed]} tags and removed the peacock sentence. I can't see the other one. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:01, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Its alright, i fixed the [not in citation] issue. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's an informative article, although it lacks information about sexual dimorphism. I copy edited a section today, and I fear that a thorough copy editing is needed to preserve the featured-article status, particularly after having excised the hyphen in "heavily-studied". is a 00:29, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The last bit of the section (with the unformatted ref) is new I think. The section above it was all present tense apart from one perfect tense ("has shown") - I don't care whether it is present or past, as long as it is consistent. I did think perfect tense was alright with the present tense. I don't see a problem with "heavily-studied", but am not fussed whether there is a hyphen there or not. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:13, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is not a, the article has comparative wieghts and reports that the plumage is similar, so I am not sure what you think is missing regarding sexual dimorphism....can you please elaborate? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:05, 28 January

Outdated "Relationship with humans" section

The "Relationship with humans" section is outdated. Emperor Penguins are kept in captivity in four places and three of those have bred it: SeaWorld San Diego (USA; by far the most succesful in breeding, see wiki article), Port of Nagoya Public Aquarium (Japan; kept but not bred yet), Wakayama Adventure World (Japan; incl. breeding) and Laohutan Ocean Park (China; incl. breeding). 62.107.210.43 (talk) 17:24, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Right, updated now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:31, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Breeding Location

"It almost always breeds on stable pack ice near the coast and up to 18 km (11 mi) offshore."

then later:

"The yearly reproductive cycle begins at the start of the Antarctic winter, in March and April, when all mature Emperor Penguins travel to colonial nesting areas, often walking 50 to 120 km (31 to 75 mi) inland from the edge of the pack ice."

Maybe showing my ignorance but I can't make much sense of these. Words like offshore and inland are unclear when there's ice off the coast. Nigej (talk) 09:51, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dogs and penguins

When dogs were present in Antarctica, did they prey upon penguins? Dogs are by nature big-game killers.Pbrower2a (talk) 06:50, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dogs were removed on the fear that that carried Canine Distemper or other diseases which might affect seals. Sadly the British Antarctic Survey dogs all died of typical dog diseases within a few years of their return ^[1] presumably because they had spent generations in a isolated environment.

References

^ http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/about_antarctica/environment/wildlife/removal_of_sledge_dogs.php. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Claims in Antarctica

Is there any reason to call out the Taylor Glacier as being in the Australian Antarctic Territory instead of saying Victoria Land? Most countries don't recognize claims in Antarctica. Sowelilitokiemu (talk) 17:57, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point. Changed. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:59, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unexplained phrasing/spelling changes

Eblackadder3, please explain why you have not been using edit summaries while editing this featured article for the past 9 months. I reverted the first edit you made in July because you added content without it being clear whether or not that was present in the listed source – do you understand what that means? Rhinopias (talk) 23:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Rhinopias: for posting. I'd seen some changes in passing but had not looked in depth until I saw the summary of the differences above. Some changes are improvements but most are adding redundant emotional words, repeating material that does not need repeating or (more worryingly) the changing of numbers without changing the source. I've gone through the article and reviewed all changes. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:30, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, thank you for actually making the changes! Too daunting of a task for me right now. I've posted on Eblackadder3's talk page also (which they have never edited). If we do not receive a response from them and they continue to edit the article, we can suggest a block at ANI until they say they'll participate... Rhinopias (talk) 00:37, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Disappearance of the Halley Bay Colony

In 2016 the Halley Bay Colony essentially disappeared when bad weather destroyed the sea-ice the colony was on. This caused the chicks to drown and the adults to abandon the colony. The adults have not seemed to make an attempted to reestablish the colony and the ice did not reform in 2017 or 2018, but the Dawson-Lambton Colony has seen a rise in numbers since:

Amos, Jonathan (2019-04-25). "Thousands of penguin chicks wiped out". Retrieved 2019-04-25.

Should this be included? Should it have its own section? It seems relevant and important to me, but I have not edited the article because I'm not sure how/if it would best be included. Downfall Vision (talk) 10:57, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded on Jchevali's addition. I think it's appropriate here, as long as the section doesn't get too long/convoluted with examples that don't add much. Sentences could probably get reordered... Rhinopias (talk) 23:41, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have uploaded a photo of the Halley Emperor colony in 1998,99 incase it proves to be of use

Just added that photo to the relevant section. Mtpaley (talk) 18:46, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Without a comparison image showing population size I don't think the image adds anything to the section. If Halley Bay didn't redirect to the research station, there could be content about the penguin colony and a photo there... Rhinopias (talk) 21:51, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Its a bird, it's a plane, it's (not) superman

I don't see anywhere in the lead or taxonomy, where I'd expect to find it, that an Emperor Penguin is a bird. I think most people know, but it's not patently obvious that it isn't for example, an aquatic mammal. That it is a bird is mentioned a few times under other sections, but what an animal is should be in the lead, eh? Sbalfour (talk) 21:58, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Sbalfour:, don't you think saying it is a penguin is more exacting and informative? And saying both would be labouring the point I suspect....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:26, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2020

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184.91.55.159 (talk) 14:45, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Darth Flappy ^«Talk» 14:53, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Height

There are plenty of youtube videos that show the Emperor Penguins height is less than 3 feet. The article said something else. Any thoughts on a reliable reference for height? Thanks, Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 04:01, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Threatened

They are now threatened as of today, someone needs to come in and change it. Thanks. Flossingjonah (talk) 06:59, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with the range map

For some reason, the range map in the speciesbox template displays as a link and not as an image. I commented it out because I can't figure out how to fix it. Michael7604 (talk) 03:58, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Michael7604 Testing with using example.png displays OK, so this seems to be some kind of problem with File:Manchot empereur carte reparition.png itself. Note that it's just displaying as a link in the same way here, using the normal image syntax - perhaps there is something in it that is breaking the thumbnailer? Andrew Gray (talk) 11:41, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed: It is caused by a bad PNG header, so you can easily fix it by downloading, opening in mspaint or paint.net, re-saving, and uploading as new version. Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#PNG_thumbnail_problem Michael7604 (talk) 19:11, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2024

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e 32.220.136.226 (talk) 20:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Not done It's unclear what changes you would like to be made. Philipnelson99 (talk) 20:48, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Temperature regulation

The sentence "although an individual can maintain its core temperature from 38.0 °C (100.4 °F) down to −47 °C (−53 °F)" seemed a little too extreme to me so I looked up the source, but couldn't find anything on maintaining core temperature in air temperatures of up to 38 degrees Celsius (please correct me if I'm wrong). Maybe the sentence is meant to be "although an individual can maintain its core temperature of 38.0 °C (100.4 °F) down to −47 °C (−53 °F)"? Replacing "from" with "of". 176.88.77.229 (talk) 15:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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