Talk:Emperor Huizong of Song

Inaccurate (or at least Misleading) and Subjective Language concerning Huizong's Artistic Prowess

I think given the vast number of paintings purported to be by Huizong's hand it is appropriate to make some mention of the Chinese practice of tai-pi (I forget what it is in Wade-Giles). The original paintings signed by him number in the thousands, so I think it's safe to say that a sizable number of works he signed were painted by hired hands. See James Cahill's discussion on "Ghostpainters" .

Additionally, I think the objectivity of some of the phrasing in this article could be improved. For example: Instead of referring to Huizong as "A true artist" who neglected the army in favor of painting, perhaps this sentence should be re-worded as "Considered a true artist by (Song Authority), Huizong's artistic pursuits may have caused the emperor to neglect the army... as reported by (Chinese historical source written shortly after Song)." Or, just leave out the questionable phrasing altogether.KAPet (talk) 02:10, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Huangdi

Huangdi (皇帝) is part of the Chinese title listed in the article, thus the removal of "Huangdi" seems to have been mistaken. Badagnani 19:46, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Speculations about Huizong's burial site

This tortoise may have originally marked Huizong's grave, according to a local historian

This probably does not warrant inclusion into the article, as I can't find academic sources that take the proponent's claim seriously - nonetheless, the existence of these speculations is an interesting piece of trivia:

The media in the Russian Far East have paid attention to the speculations of the local historian Yuri Filatov (Юрий Филатов) that Huizong was buried at the site of today's city of Ussuriysk, at a site that was originally marked with a stone tortoise (bixi). The Jurchen tortoise in question (moved several times from its original location is a local tourist attraction, but its original purpose has not been pronounced upon by the mainstream historians.

(There was another tortoise on the site; it is now in a museum in Khabarovsk, and Russian historians say that it was marking the grave of a Jurchen general they call Esikui (Эсыкуй) - known otherwise as Wanyan Asikui (完颜阿思魁) or Wanyan Zhong (完顏忠).)

Huizong's Artistic Prowess (language requires revision)

The written style is too casual to be deemed objective or reliable. It is better to avoid the word "we" in a wikipedia article. Sentences such as "He was another Li Yu(李煜) to a degree" should be expressed in a more object way with clear citation and references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manucode (talk • contribs) 17:52, 26 September 2011 (UTC)