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Diaries

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Emma Darwin's diaries have today been published online and are available at darwin-online. May provide some information with which to update this article. --Jon186 19:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Emma's piano lessons

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I'm new to Wiki so let me apologize in advance if I breach protocol. I'm researching Emma Darwin, and noted in the article about her that she studied piano with Chopin in Paris, and the article implies that this happened before 1826. When I went to the Wiki article on Chopin, I noted that he didn't arrive in Paris until 1831. I'm just wondering about this discrepancy. Thank you. Logicgirl (talk) 18:41, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch, no problem about protocol – there's lots of guidance about ettiquette and the like, but you're doing just fine and don't seem to need that advice. The article needs to be changed to avoid that implication, the original source suggesting she had lessons from Chopin (and Ignaz Moscheles) seems to be the Litchfield family letters p. 62 which gives no indication of when or where she got the lessons. Desmond and Moore similarly mention the lessons on p. 233 amongst her other accomplishments, but don't say where or when she got the lessons. A useful outline of Emma's life is given in Freeman pp. 292–293, that indicates the sources for more detail. There's a lot in the Litchfield family letters: Emma seems to have made a lot of trips abroad, starting with a long remembered visit to Paris when she was 10![1] This article needs much improvement, and inline citations for a lot of the statements: if you can work on it a bit it'll be great, and let me know if you want a hand with any of the technicalities. . dave souza, talk 20:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It could well be family legend (it is her daughter who reports it). A quick check seems to indicate that Chopin's visit to London in 1837 is the most likely time for Emma and him to have crossed paths. Unfortunately her diary for 1837 no longer seems to exist. --Erp (talk) 21:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your feedback and encouragement, Dave and erp. I'll keep her encounter with Chopin in the background for now. I'm at the early stages of my research so I'm not sure how much I'll be able to add to the discussion moving forward, but I'll do my best. Thanks again - I'm delighted to be part of the conversation. Logicgirl (talk) 17:00, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As a followup I note Willis, Peter (2009) "CHOPIN IN BRITAIN Chopin's visits to England and Scotland in 1837 and 1848 People, places, and activities". Doctoral thesis, Durham University http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/179/ page 519 lists a Wedgwood with no first name as a student in 1848 and no Darwins. However I think it unlikely Emma Darwin would have used the name 'Wedgwood' after her marriage. Someone could peruse her 1848 diaries (which are online but only as images to check one way or another). It might be interesting to know which Wedgwood did take the lessons but that is trivia and not pertinent for wikipedia. --Erp (talk) 04:38, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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