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Considering "Infinite" a studio album

Eminem created slim shady records as an outlet ot his aggression. Although many millions of people have adored Marshall for his music, he has managed to gain the hatred of other millions world-wide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.196.12 (talk) 15:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

To anybody outside the narrow circle of people who edit this article, referring to "The Slim Shady LP" as Eminem's second album or to "Relapse" as his sixth -- in other words, considering "Infinite" a studio album among his others -- is completely odd and nitpicky. I understand that "Infinite" is a studio album, but it does not belong in any list of "Eminem's studio albums" for a variety of reasons. The best reason is that Eminem's official website does not mention it as such (it does not mention it at all). In my opinion, Eminem's website -- not the editors of Wikipedia -- is the definitive authority on what does and does not belong in a list of Eminem's albums. I propose that a new category for "independent releases" be made for "Infinite" and other releases that qualify (e.g., "The Slim Shady EP") and that we stop playing by our own rules.

During the inital release of Infinite, Eminem was closely associated with Rap Battling. For GOOD EXAMPLES of Rap Battles in Text and Audio Format, visit http://www.AveMcs.com

'How Come' from the alubum 'D12 World

This track should also be added to Eminem's number one single list.. if 'My Band' was added as well.. As the song reached No.1 in several countries, visit the 'How Come' page for further info. So the opening should now say Eminem has had 13 No.1 singles...

Also Jimmy Crack Corn was a no.1 single along wth forever with drake lil wayne and kanye west, so he should have 15 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.113.189.78 (talk) 20:58, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Awards and nominations

he is not the rapper with the most Grammy awards, Kanye West has 14.168.223.205.26 (talk) 21:07, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

 Fixed, thanks for the catch! -Verdatum (talk) 15:04, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

But kanye isn't a rapper anyway —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.158.58.243 (talk) 15:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Abusive Parent

Eminem's Father left him when he was very young.His line from "My Name Is"showed hatred for his father.It was"By the the way if you see my dad tell him I slit his throat in this dream I had!".But you must understand why he hates his parents.In "cleaning out my closet"he explained that his mother was"poppin' pescription pills in the kitchen ***** and looking through her purse and****s missin'".His mother abused him but she "made that CD for (him) MA?!so you could try to justify the way you treated(him) MA?!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.155.31 (talk) 01:32, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

His songs may be deep but may not be true... He can be biased sometimes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquibmsa (talk • contribs) 02:18, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Aquibmsa is right, we can't use his song lyrics as a source for anything. He's got an artistic license that protects him from slander/libel, we don't. If you are interested in adding biographical content, you might want to see what you can find in his autobiography. But even then, keep in mind that autobiographies have minor WP:Conflict of interest issues. -Verdatum (talk) 14:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Not everything Eminem raps about is truth. As you can probably tell, he's got a twisted sense of humor and he often incorporates things into his music that are just crazy for the sake of humor. If we were to use his music as a source to describe how or why his parents were abusive, someone could also use that same logic to use it as a source to describe him as a serial killer.--Wck619 (talk) 18:48, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Birthyear and birthplace

According to the official Eminem site, he was born in 1973 (not 1972 as the page currently reads as of Feb 13, 2010). The day and month are correct. His birthplace is Kansas City, Missouri, not St Joseph.

Reference: http://www.eminem.net/biography/ 99.246.81.77 (talk) 04:43, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

eminem.net is an unofficial fansite, and the biography linked above does not have citations. Further, the section "Biography 2" of that link does state St. Joseph, and 1972. More reputable sources are needed to counter the existing ones. Again, for more on the birthplace issue, see Talk:Eminem/Archive 5#Eminem Never Lived In Kansas City. -Verdatum (talk) 17:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

What about his collaberation in forever by drake

The subject says it all —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.125.10.56 (talk) 00:45, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

He won grammy in 2010 of feburary for the best rapper in histoty —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.169.118.170 (talk) 19:09, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

"best rapper in histoty?"lmao! there's no such category Smokiewight (talk) 03:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Venomous?

Under Relapse and Relapse 2 it says Venomous it was released to (Feb.28) and will be on relapse 2? real or fake? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.226.156.167 (talk) 20:16, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

More than likely bullshit. If you type it in Google. Not a damn thing pops up about it. Just some jackass making stuff up as usual. --69.155.124.215 (talk) 18:45, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I wish this could be edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick Rodr1235 (talk • contribs) 00:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Dude FUCKK NOOO. Em was born in October 17 1967. Insert non-formatted text here

where does it say that? Smokiewight (talk) 03:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

It was rumoured on twitter that he had a fling with a unknown "Sue",she had wrote that they had slept with each other. No one commented except Hailey Jade Scotts who said it was a big lie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.141.128 (talk) 21:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC) Eminem Elevator is to be added

94.4.144.151 (talk) 21:43, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Please explain what this is, where it should be added, and provide a reliable source to verify.  fetchcomms☛ 21:47, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Horrorcore

It should be added to his genres. Look at his lyrics, this man's music is like the Cannibal Corpse of Hip Hop... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.251.91 (talk) 17:26, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you he was in a horrorcore group named D12 —Preceding unsigned comment added by DanTorresROCKS (talk • contribs) 23:28, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

It should be added to his list of genres. Source:

Cohen, Sara (2007). Decline, Renewal and the City in Popular Music Culture: Beyond The Beatles. Ashgate Publishing, Ltd.. p. 52. ISBN 0754632431. "The music journalist and author Dan Sicko describes certain strains of Detroit hip-hop as 'an extreme, almost parodied' version of inner city life, which he links to the extremities of urban decline in the city: 'both the horrorcore of hip-hop outfits such as Insane Clown Posse, Esham and (to a lesser extent) the multi-platinum-selling Eminem, utilize shocking (and blatantly over the top) narratives to give an over-exaggerated, almost cartoon-like version of urban deprivation in Detroit' (cited in Cohen and Strachan, 2005)."

Edit request from Mohrs9165, 6 April 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Eminem Failed ninth grade 3 times not 2

Mohrs9165 (talk) 21:08, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 21:22, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

In his autobiography he says he failed 3 times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.197.241.110 (talk) 06:24, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Small mistake

Under Number-one singles the date for the single Crack a bottle is wrong, it should be 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.151.46.187 (talk) 03:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't Call Me Marshall

It should be added but I dont know if its a mixtape or what. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.157.10.7 (talk) 23:35, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Darkalex1030, 28 April 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Well I would like you to change the genre or what type of music Eminem sings for he raps he doesnt fall in the category of hip hop Thank you

Darkalex1030 (talk) 23:39, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 02:24, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

New song ?

I'm not afraid by Emeninem ?

Edit request from SlimDan22, 6 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Name needs to be changed, someone vandalized the page and changed his name name should be Marshall Bruce Mathers III

SlimDan22 (talk) 16:58, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Already done Celestra (talk) 18:58, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Promo Tapes and Soul Intent tapes

I was just wondering why there isn’t a section with Eminem’s promo tapes and tapes by soul intent with Eminem are not listed. Or make a category and put them in. The slim shady promo tape and Marshal Mather’s promo tape have various unreleased crank calls on them. They all are official and if you are a true Eminem fan u should know. These are The Bassment Files, The Marshall Mather’s LP (Promo), The Slim Shady LP (Promo), Soul Intent (Demo), and Steppin' Onto the Scene EP, and Still in the Bassmint. I have all the covers and track listing if anyone wanted to add them. Please hit me back. And please don’t comment and be a prick or rude was just wondering that’s all.

Side note Eminem is not horrorcore he might have a few songs that fit that genre just like the Geto Boys, but as a whole he is not horrocore ICP, Twiztid, Necro, Cage, and The Gravediggaz are horrorcore not Eminem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Numberonesoldjah (talk • contribs) 05:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Spinderp, 20 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} In the "Number One Singles" area of Discography for Eminem, The link to the Relapse album is using the link to the Recovery Album.

This can easily be fixed by changing "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_%28Eminem_album%29" to "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relapse_%28Eminem_album%29"

Spinderp (talk) 18:59, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done Cheers, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:38, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

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Fragmented Sentences

"The Eminem Show is a hip hop classic and has been certified diamond by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). Selling over 10 million in the United States and well over 20 million worldwide. Making eminem one of the only artists to ever have two diamond albums both of which selling over 20 million worldwide."

This section has sentence fragments, and "Eminem" doesn't have the 'e' capitalized at one point. Also, it has a redundant link to the RIAA page, and calling his album a "hip hop classic" is an opinion, not a fact.

It should be worded something like this (assuming the facts in it are even true - I don't know if they are or not): "The Eminem Show has been certified diamond by the RIAA, selling over 10 million copies in the US and over 20 million worldwide. This makes Eminem one of the only artists to have two albums go diamond and sell over 20 million copies worldwide." Truly Bad Timing (talk) 19:54, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

The information isn't true. http://riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?resultpage=2&table=tblTop100&action= —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.244.1 (talk) 22:07, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

The RIAA certifications have been fixed in the last several edits. ferret (talk) 15:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request

Will someone please add 'How come - with D12' from the 'D12 World' album to Eminem's No.1 singles list?

It charted No.1 in Australia and Austria.. See below link to 'How come' page for further chart listings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Come —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.11.39 (talk) 16:28, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Suicide?

It Should Be Mentions How Eminem Attemped To Suicide, Which Was Unsuccesful..Thx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.27.168.85 (talk) 12:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit - including you. If you can find a reliable source that for the claim, and you can show that his suicide attempt is notable and of public interest (see Wikipedia's guidelines on privacy), please feel free to add the information ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 09:03, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

I think this information is obvious...he raps about it all over Recovery. "Going Through Changes" is all about his over dose. "Cinderella Man" starts out with Em stating that technically he's not even supposed to be here. Reference the lyrics on the insert or listen to the songs... WriterForFun (talk) 16:04, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I think we mentioned that songs lyrics cannot be considered as reliable sources because we would have "sources" claiming Eminem actually conducts murders. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 18:09, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Dmoodie92, 20 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} please change the picture of eminem you cant really see his face http://djbonline.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/eminem.jpg Dmoodie92 (talk) 02:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the image used is not the best picture to illustrate the article, but as you can see from commons:Eminem, free pictures of the subject are rather scarce. Wikipedia's image use guidelines almost never permit the use of a non-free image depicting a living person. You are welcome to upload a better, free image to be used in its place. If you would like the image you have linked to to be used, you must prove that you own it and that it is appropriately licensed. Please see Wikipedia:Upload and Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information. Intelligentsium 03:19, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Splitting the 6th and 7th albums

I hate to be nit picky but in the name of consistency is it possible to split Relapse and Recovery up? I know Relapse and Relapse 2 were supposed to be released kinda as a co-joined thing but it's gone past that now. Shouldn't one heading be something such as "Relapse & Relapse: Refill" then have a second heading "Recovery"? That way we split the 6th and 7th albums right now it just seems confusing and more of a timeline of the rumors on Recovery then actual facts once everything became more solid. Is it possible to get rid of the speculative stuff and have just a recovery piece? That way once sales and stuff come in it'll be easier. Also i Eminem tweeted that the music video for the the next single "No love" is in the process of being shot and that they got lil wayne's piece done before he went to prison. I don't know if that's entirely relevant to this particular page or more to the recovery one but i figured i'd throw it out there for anyone who wanted to look into it. I'd doing this all myself but i'm very new to wiki and don't really know how to go about fixing the page or have a lot of time to learn. Hope it helps. REV3RB (talk) 05:10, 23 June 2010 (UTC)REV3RB12

Split the sections.  Done That No Love thing is not really relavent to this page untill the music video comes out or something.  Not done STAT -Verse 19:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

(commonly stylized EMIN∃M on his albums)

• It's a weird "E" - EMIN∃M
• Better version: EMINƎM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.120.129.186 (talk) 16:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

ja rule

it doesnt matter were but i was readin and theres the info about his beef wit icp but his most important was the beef wit ja and murder inc. tht shul be included somewere —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.180.83 (talk) 07:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Is this English? Everard Proudfoot (talk) 18:40, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST: Eminem on Entrouge

Filmography?

Please see link:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1642628/20100629/eminem.jhtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dasanik97 (talk • contribs) 17:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Hypemen

It should be noted that Royce da 5'9 was Eminem's hypeman before D12 got big. Once the fued with D12 and Royce started Proof became Em's hypeman untill proof was killed and since then Kon Artis has been Em's hypeman. It should be noted but i dont know where. Red Flag on the Right Side 08:23, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Solved "Português" interwiki link issue

At the article interwiki section, the "Português" interwiki link appeared twice, with one at the top of the list referring to pt:Predefinição:D12 (a template in pt.wiki). This turned out to be an interwiki link of Template:D12 which was not covered within <noinclude> tags, which I then extended to remove it from view. -Mardus (talk) 11:47, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Want to be inches longer?

is it me or is anyone else getting this link in huge letters on top of the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoffmanbeswag (talk • contribs) 02:45, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Try refreshing your page. A vandal wrote that.  Davtra  ^(talk) 02:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

new picture

somebody should add a newer picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazzahayez (talk • contribs) 09:25, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Festival Performances

Is it Noteworthy to include his well received performances at T In The Park & Oxegen? I mean they were his first full set performances in years and were favourably received. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.220.95 (talk) 14:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Eminems Fueds not just with Mariah Carey

What about ICP, Everlast, Benzino, Ja Rule, Canabis, Moby. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.69.70.71 (talk • contribs) 17:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request: Another reference to Mariah Carey

In his new song that Eminem recorded with P!nk, Wont Back Down, Eminem sings "B**ch am I the reason that your boyfriend stopped rapping" This may be refering to Mariah Carey's boyfriend, Nick Cannon, joke about returning to rap just to diss Eminem.72.67.192.211 (talk) 02:50, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Please provide a reliable source for this statement. As it stands now, it is unverifiable and may constitute original research or synthesis and borders on violating the biographies of living persons policy. Intelligentsock 02:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

main picture

plz change the main picture.it does not look good —Preceding unsigned comment added by I fix pages (talk • contribs) 04:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree. We don't have anything better? You can't even see his face. --mboverload@ 04:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Wich do you prefer then? --David-bel (talk) 13:47, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

File:eminem_2.jpg|eminem raping

the main picture is good,no need to change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harsh hk (talk • contribs) 17:12, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

i say the one on the right.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.227.254 (talk) 01:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Brüno

Doesn't Eminem has a small apearance in the movie Brüno? Or it could also be for a stunt for publicity for the movie, I'm not sure. --David-bel (talk) 10:07, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 76.109.113.210, 23 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} In Also Known As, Eminem is commonly referred to as Fire Marshall: Session One feat. Slaughterhouse. Thanks.

76.109.113.210 (talk) 04:33, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Edit request incorrectly made. You didn't make clear what we should change FROM and what we should change TO. Further, you provided no reliable source for whatever change you're trying to request. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 12:47, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 174.59.222.41, 24 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} eminem did not sell more than the carter 3.

174.59.222.41 (talk) 06:05, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed.  Davtra  ^(talk) 06:06, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Sourcing, et. al. for "Number-one singles" section

The article currently has a table of some peaks from some charts for some songs, in the Number-one singles section. This lets us show some of that notability Eminem has, because he's had so many chart-toppers. But I'm wondering: do we need this?

Several things bother me about this table (apart from it not being regularly used in other articles, although I have seen it elsewhere):

1. It is completely and entirely unsourced.
2. It is incomplete, in that it only shows some charts. We use the limit of 10 recommended by MOS:DISCOG, but that leaves several notable charts out of the table, making comparisons or cumulative statements difficult. Are two No. 1's in Italy more interesting than two No. 1's in Sweden? Sweden's just been replaced with Canada; is this a good choice? Why or why not?
3. The notability of Eminem's number of No. 1 or top-ten chartings depends a lot on how it compares to other artists, which isn't shown here. Who else has had seven No. 1's on the New Zealand chart? Who's had more? Is seven in NZ hard to do?
4. It is completely and entirely unsourced.

So: Does this table really improve the article, or is it just another thing we have to keep updating and correcting? And if we want to keep it, what justification is there for not adding reference citations, like on every other article? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC) and if this looks familiar to some of you, it's because I originally (and mistakenly) posted it to Talk:Love the Way You Lie 20:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

rap rock

His genres should include rap rock because The Eminem Show was partially rap rock (ex. Sing for the Moment, White America, Hailie's Song) —Preceding unsigned comment added by XGrantBx (talk • contribs) 21:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC) none of those are rock songs eminem raps in all of them including hallies song, and kanye wests last album was hip/hop rap even though he sang almost all of it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.179.46.156 (talk) 03:18, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

They are rap rock they're even listed as rap rock on wikipedia. XGrantBx (talk) 16:31, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a reliable source because you coulda or anyone coulda changed that right now. Red Flag on the Right Side 19:36, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Epicenter Twenty Ten

Eminem is set to headline Day 1 of the Epicenter along with Kiss. Please add that to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linkin Park rulz (talk • contribs) 17:38, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

What is it, why is it important, and how do you know (WP:N, WP:NOTDIR, WP:V, WP:RS)? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Rakim69, 7 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

Here you got the total sale before Recovery (81.5M) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi2QSQ-3CNs&feature=related

And here the sales of MMLP (23 millions WW) http://www.sohh.com/2010/05/50_cent_relies_on_eminems_opinion_i_play.html

Rakim69 (talk) 01:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Not only did you ignore the template's clear directions to specify what to change FROM and change TO, but neither of these references say what you think they say. The YouTube video opens with what I readily believe is a joke, and the SOHH.com site (which merely regurgitates snippets of other sites, which may or may not be reliable) lists an excerpt where "23 million" is, indeed, used in a sentence (twice) but neither state that Marshall Mather sold 23 million copies worldwide. In fact, the LP's not even mentioned. Sorry. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 01:41, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Chuckjav12345, 8 September 2010

Hello, I just want to change the default picture on Eminem's wikipedia page. As of 2010 I'd like to keep it more up to date to the 2010 Marshall Mathers. Sincerely, chuckjav12345 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuckjav12345 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

nick cannon responds

this shuld be in the article wit the mariah carey conflict

http://www.rapbasement.com/eminem/091110-nick-cannon-disses-eminem-listen-to-it-here-click-now.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.196.203 (talk) 21:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

d12 asociation

d12 should be listed first in his associated acts. doctor dre sghould be sconod. eminem was affiliated with d12 before and longer than he was with dre —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.243.1.80 (talk) 04:06, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Order doesn't madder. Red Flag on the Right Side 14:24, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Rock Influence

Eminem stated in this interview at 2:00 or something that he was influenced by jimmy hendrix and led zepplin..can someone look into this?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBSKXpB2y-c —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.249.150.234 (talk) 17:48, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Not being the number 1 selling rap artist

2pac has 125 million+ album sales but wikipedia wont agknowlege it so please eminem isnt the 1 selling rapper thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.95.1.238 (talk) 21:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

If you can find a reliable source that states this then you can put it. I assure you 2Pac has not sold that much. Jp0291 (talk) 17:35, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Should it be mentioned

That Eminem is going to be on 60 Minutes? Jp0291 (talk) 17:35, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

If he's expected to reveal his plans to campaign for the 2012 US Presidential election, then yes, absolutely. If it's just a here's-a-celebrity-we-haven't-covered-yet piece, then no. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 17:54, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Relapse

The album Relapse, came out in 2009 not in 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninjacat500 (talk • contribs) 20:20, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Right. Do you see some place where the article says otherwise? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 00:19, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

beefs

ems had fueds wit more than just mariah. he awas beefing with ja rule, icp, benzino, everlast and canibus. there shuld be an article wit all his fueds —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.203.43 (talk) 07:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Ancestry

Don't you think it's getting silly now we know he has English, Scottish and a bit of German ancestry, but I'm not sure about Swiss, and very unclear about Polish, I've looked and can't find Polish or Swiss, Tell me what you think, we don't want to be misleading to our readers.86.186.3.245 (talk) 03:50, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

If Eminem's ancestry is from luxembourg then he is of luxembourgIAN ancestry and not of luxembourg ancestry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Letzebuergerr (talk • contribs) 09:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

musical hiatus

why is ther nothing about the RE-UP in this article. during the hiatus he still put out the reup wit the shady aftermath fam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.170.217 (talk) 23:58, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Can we change his main Wiki Picture?

He looks like a fking retard with a weird twitch in it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.176.109.38 (talk) 00:05, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

The picture issue has been discussed repeatedly, just browse the talkpage archives linked up top to see. It is difficult to acquire images with a compatible copyright status for Eminem. Anyone is more than welcome to try and find or photograph a better one. -Verdatum (talk) 17:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

it looks like a fucken girl. please find sometihng that isn't copyright thats better than that, if you can't you obviously haven't looked.

how so? back it up. Smokiewight (talk) 03:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

How about using the picture from the insert of Recovery---the one with his shirt off showing the "Proof" tat? Best pic of Em I've ever seen! WriterForFun (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:10, 9 October 2010 (UTC).

We can't use copyrighted images. Any promotional image you see is copyrighted. -Verdatum (talk) 17:06, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

This picture really needs updating, you cant even see his face on it. How about the same picture as used on his official Facebook Page, that one is nice and clear and also recent?

death

it should also say somehing about the death rumors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.109.202.91 (talk) 21:29, 9 April 2010 (UTC) --68.151.46.187 (talk) 03:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)Under Number-one singles the date for the single Crack a bottle is wrong, it should be 2009.

In 2010 there was a rumor that says Eminem died in a car crash in 2:30 while driving from a late night party. Though it wasnt proven. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.109.202.91 (talk) 03:15, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

The rumor is quite a bit older than 2010. If you can find a reliable source that discusses it, for example, MTV News, then maybe it can be mentioned in the article. Otherwise, it's just considered insignificant fluff floating about the Internet, not suitable for a Biography of living persons article. -Verdatum (talk) 17:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Shady Records section needs updated

He recently said he wants to rebuild Shady Records and he's focusing on that right now. He also is in the middle of signing Slaughterhouse. Jp0291 (talk) 19:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Source? -Verdatum (talk) 17:16, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Beatings

Why is there nothing here about D'Angelo Bailey, who beat him into a coma when he was 10 and he had to re-learn all his basic functions? What about his abusive mother? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.233.135.156 (talk) 04:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps this information isn't in the mass media? Information needs to be backed by reliable sources. I can't find any of this information published in reliable sources.  Davtra  ^(talk) 05:03, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

The D'Angelo Bailey thing was probably made up for his song "Brain Damage". Red Flag on the Right Side 05:14, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

It's not fictional. He later caught charges for defemation of character or something from D'Angelo, and during the trial Bailey admitted himself that everything in that song is true (except the part about his brain falling out obviously). If you watch any documentary on Eminem, you'll know about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.233.135.156 (talk) 23:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

The quoted portion in this link appears potentially reliable. Unfortunately, I can't figure out what paper this blog is quoting. If this or another similar source could be found, this could be added to the section on his legal issues. However this article, at least, makes no mention of a coma. -Verdatum (talk) 18:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request: Another reference to Mariah Carey

In the new song "Cold Wind Blows" on the Recovery album, Eminem's lyrics are clearly directed toward Mariah Carey and his hatred towards her. Examples include: "fuck all that love shit honey, yeah I laugh when I call you a slut its funny...shorty dance while I diss you to the beat...this shit is on cause you went and pissed me off...take a look at Mariah next time I inspire you to write a song....I'll be nicer to women when Aquaman drowns and the Human Torch starts swiming...the last thing you wanna do is have me spit out a rhyme and say I was writing this and thought of you." InfoWriterforFun (talk) 22:14, 28 September 2010 (UTC) WriterForFun (talk)

We can't use his song lyrics to imply any facts whatsoever. He is not obligated to convey true emotions in his songs. -Verdatum (talk) 17:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Somebody keeps deleting my edits about Eminem's Controversies

I have been adding controversies that Eminem has been involved in, and somebody keeps delting it. I am adding reliable sources after every edit, but someone keeps deleting it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brooklyn2430 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

What makes you believe that http://www.emineminfo.com/jarule.shtml is a reliable source. Secret ^account 17:28, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

It is pretty reliable, because 3 other websites say the same thing.

Just because it's a website doesn't mean it's a reliable source Secret ^account 19:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I know its reliable because i know the stories, and they have the right information —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brooklyn2430 (talk • contribs) 14:14, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid biographies on living persons have a higher standard of inclusion. We can't just take an editor's word for it. And the fact that multiple websites state the same information doesn't, in itself, make the information reliable; it may just mean they copied each other. -Verdatum (talk) 17:44, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

g-unit association

i think g-unit shuld be in the associated acts because if it wasnt for eminem ther wuld be no g-unit and he done alot of production for g-unit along with producing for banks and yayos solo albums —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.203.66 (talk) 23:41, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

1 billion views on Vevo?

Is that really relevant enough to add on in the lead? Hell, I don't think it's worthy of being in the article... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.212.212 (talk) 23:44, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Marshall Mathers and Eminem Show not diamond

Yeah, I don't know why it says this. Even look at the wiki page on artists with diamond. Someone please edit. [1] 24.46.244.1 (talk) 11:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Because Eminem says so---"platinum and 3 diamond" albums---its in his lyrics on Encore...song "Encore/Curtains Down" feat Dr. Dre and 50 Cent. The Wiki "artists with diamond" page clearly states that its list is incomplete!! READ PEOPLE!! WriterForFun (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC). of couse he has an adiction to drugs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.91.181.13 (talk) 20:59, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

eminems fueds

This should include eminems beefs it insane clown posse everlas benzino and ja rule —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.137.121 (talk) 07:45, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

and canabis 24.46.244.1 (talk) 01:10, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The topic of beefs has come up many times before. We can certainly discuss them in the article, but first we need reliable sources. -Verdatum (talk) 17:12, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I second this, though I am much to lazy to write it up myself. I followed a link from fred dursts article about their feud here, but found nothing about it. If its in Freds article than certainly it has a source that can be borrowed. I will leave that up to the regular contributors because you guys do such a great job(again im lazy)98.244.116.15 (talk) 18:38, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

List of Songs Referencing Eminem's Daughters

Can "Superman" be added to the list of songs under Family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_(Eminem_song), her name is stated in one of Eminem's lines as the woman:

"Hailie Jade...I love that name, Love that tattoo...what's that say? rot in pieces' uhh that's great..."

Also...Haylie and Alaina are both listed as being mentioned in Going through Changes but so was Whitney (who is not listed as being mentioned in any songs on the page)

"Hailie this one is for you, Whitney and Alaina too" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.114.191.10 (talk) 16:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC) And Also Deja Vu ,"Look at my daughters face... 'Mommy somethings is wrong with dad I think! He's acting weird again, he's really beginning to scare me. Wont shave his beard again and he pretends he doesn't hear me. And all he does is eat Doritos and Cheetos, and he just fell asleep in his car eating three musketeers in the rear seat'. " AND ,"So you can lie to Hallie? I'm going beddy bye Whitney baby, good night Alaina." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elayne123 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Associated acts

Hncvc keeps adding artists that aren't qualified by associated acts like Jay-Z, he keeps adding them without a reason, and is purely edit warring, but haven't violated 3rr yet. He qualifies for WP:3RRN. Let's him give the chance to discuss this in talk before I report him. I already warned him countless times but won't listen. Secret ^account 00:53, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

TUPAC/BIGGIEJAY-Z/NAS/NWA/DR. DRE INFLUENCE!

!!!! EMINEM STATED THAT HE WAS ALSO INSPIRED BY THESE RAPPERS! LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_y2F8KjMTg&feature=channel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.249.150.234 (talk) 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

edit request: update 2nd paragraph of Family section

Please change this in the 2nd paragraph of the 'Family' section. Eminem adopted two other daughters: Alaina "Lainey" Mathers, the child of Kimberley Scott's sister,[133] who has been referenced by name in some Eminem songs including "Mockingbird", "Airplanes Part II" and "Going Through Changes"; and Whitney, Scott's child from a previous relationship. Whitney is mentioned in the song "Going through Changes." He is also the legal guardian of his younger half-brother, Nathan.

to this:

Eminem has two daughters whom he adopted: Alaina "Lainey" Mathers(nee Scott, May 3 1993) and Whitney Mathers(nee Harrter, May 26 2002). Alaina is the daughter of Dawn Scott, Eminem's ex-wife's twin sister[133]. She has been referenced in some Eminem songs including "Mockingbird", "Airplanes Part II" and "Going Through Changes". Whitney Mathers is the daughter of Kim and Eric Harrter. When Eminem remarried Kim briefly for 10months in 2006, he cared for Whitney as if she were his own daughter<r e f>http://rapdirt.com/kim-mathers-in-baby-battle-with-eric-harter/4648/</r e f>. After their second divorce in December 2006 divorce Eminem sought and was awarded full custody of Whitney; he then changed her name to Mathers. Whitney is mentioned in the song "Going through Changes".

In 1999 Eminem moved his 13 year old younger half brother Nathan(1986) in with him. Thank You. 69.243.24.147 (talk) 16:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Comments by 174.35.249.32

[This comment by 174.35.249.32 moved here from Talk:Eminem/Comments by JohnFromPinckney (talk), 23:32, 25 January 2011 (UTC))

The article has 1 MAJOR error- Eminem has NEVER lived in Detroit- he lived in WARREN, MICHIGAN. This can be verified by accessing articles on the sale of his boyhood home in the Detroit New and Detroit Free Press data base (can be found online through a google search). Warren is a city EXACTLY opposite of Detroit (like most of Detroit's surburbs. For example, in the 10 years Eminem grew up in Warren in the 80's there were less than 60 homicides- in Detroit there were over 6,000 murders. Detroit is consistently the most dangerous big city in America and Warren (like the other surburbs of Livonia, Sterling Heights, Troy, Southfield, Oak Park,etc) are at the top of the list for safest cities in America). Like Warren these cities go years without 1 homicide. (All Michigan State Police & FBI statistics). So the basis of the article's "street cred" is erroneous-it is promoting a myth and blatantly FALSE information as FACT. I.E.- it would be taking the FALSE stories from the journalist from the NY Times, USA TODAY, etc and re-publishing them in other newspapers as FACT-even though the information has been proven to be 100% made up. THIS SHOULD BE CORRECTED. eminems the best peace out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.35.249.32 (talk) 23:14, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Dead

is he dead ? read www —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.165.66.217 (talk) 13:57, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

No, rumors of his death started years ago, and they tend to pop up every December thanks to the viral nature of the Internet for such poorly written bits of fake news. -Verdatum (talk) 17:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

New role in a movie. please update

here is the link http://www.deadline.com/2010/12/dreamworks-teams-with-eminem-and-kurt-sutter-for-southpaw/ the movie is called "Southpaw" please update —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.123.8.102 (talk) 02:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Not much to update yet; there's a guy who's supposed to start working on a script, with a first draft expected by February. Probably, the first draft will need work, rework, possibly replacement, etc. And even if all the principals love that first script without reservation, it will be some time before casting is completed and production begins. Until then, the project could collapse for many reasons, and any mention of it as an actual movie is counter to the concerns of WP:CRYSTAL. No need to hurry. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 11:41, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Please fix his chart

In this section http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem#Number-one_singles pleaase remove he Hot 100 chart and insert the Rap chart. He is a rap artist & that chart is more indicative of his success.

Also, all throughout this article I keep seeing hiphop, instead of rap. He is a rapper, he music is rap not hipHop. Ive noticed alot of WP pages have hipHop listed instead of rap, perhaps because of the negatives assocaited with rap(violence, guns, cursing,drugs,misogynistic lyrics); but that is some of what is prevalent in rap. I dont think whitewashing is good at all. Yes rap is a branhc of hipHop, but the correct term for Em and his music are rap and rapper. 69.140.66.37 (talk) 08:11, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Being number one on a rap chart doesn't mean you have a number-one overall selling album for a country. Changing that would make the data not match the rest of the table. Information regarding performance on the rap chart may be more appropriate for the Eminem discography article.

If you'd like to enter the fray on the question of "Rap music" vs. "Hip hop music", I believe that belongs in the Hip Hop wikiproject. For the time being, the deliniation between the two is subjective, as is often the case with neologisms. Rapping is something you do with your mouth; that much is clear. So it is perfectly acceptable to say that Eminem is a rapper; he raps. However, the music he produces may be "hip hop music" or "rap music". The denotative difference between "rap music" and "hip hop music" is not clear. Rap music redirects to hip hop music. Unless someone can point to a clear and agreed upon guideline explaining when to use one term over the other, I feel it is not worth changing the article. It is just as likely that the next person will come along, disagree with rap, and want it changed to hip hop.

If you're curious, you may also want to look through the talkpage archives for this article. The matter of rap vs. hip hop has been brought up before. -Verdatum (talk) 17:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

overdose

why isnt there anything about his overdose and almost dying in this entire page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.183.248 (talk) 17:19, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Unnecessary information?

I dunno if individual songs really need to be mentioned on Eminem's main article. Maybe it can be mentioned that he appeared on different people's albums and then list the artists but I don't think individual leaked songs belong on the main page. This isn't a blog. Jp0291 (talk) 17:37, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Syllables?

shouldnt there be anything about his song that just leaked, syllables? not too much, you only really just need to say what its about

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1655052/20101229/eminem.jhtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.249.148 (talk) 21:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

This New Picture

This new picture at the very top has no copyright information. I recommend that we revert back to the old picture which had all necessary copyright information. Thank you. 68.55.121.173 (talk) 17:35, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

New Leaked songs!

Leaks we should add songs like i need a doctor with dr.dre and skylar grey, syllables with dr.dre, 50 cent, jay-z, stat quo and cashis and the personal proof tribue difficult. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.99.213 (talk) 20:22, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Dead external links to Allmusic website – January 2011

Since Allmusic have changed the syntax of their URLs, 2 link(s) used in the article do not work anymore and can't be migrated automatically. Please use the search option on http://www.allmusic.com to find the new location of the linked Allmusic article(s) and fix the link(s) accordingly, prefereably by using the {{Allmusic}} template. If a new location cannot be found, the link(s) should be removed. This applies to the following external links:

• http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Aiypzefrk2gf6
• http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Aiypzefrk2gf6

--CactusBot (talk) 10:09, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Updates : sales & Track Digital

There is an update on his worldwide sales thanks to Recovery he is now at 85 million solo albums sold. Source : http://www.antimusic.com/news/10/dec/10Eminem_Scores_Biggest_Selling_Album_of_2010.shtml

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2011-01-06-musicsalesinside06_ST_N.htm

Total digital tracks since 2004

Eminem, 33.3M

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakim69 (talk • contribs) 03:38, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Movies Southpaw and Random Acts of Violence

This is random but they don't mention how Eminem is starring in two new movies.One called Southpaw where he plays a welterweight boxer whose career ends abruptly & the other called Random Acts of Violence. That movie being about Eminem playing an ex-con trying to stay on the right side of the law while people from his past pressure him & law enforcement tries to get him to work with them to take down the people from his past.Just thought they should mention it in here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.10.218.54 (talk) 03:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

See the Acting career section. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 03:15, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Syllables isn't new

Stat quo said the song was recorded in 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.99.213 (talk) 18:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request

In the section "Influences and rapping technique" Redman should be listed as one who influenced Em's technique. Eminem has said on more than one occasion that Redman is his favorite rapper and he definitely had an influence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.173.6.51 (talk) 15:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Religion

shouldnt we say wat eminem's religion is? he's christian. he said once on an interview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.68.90 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

If he mentioned it only once in passing, it's hardly important enough to mention in the article, IMO. It's not what he's known or notable for. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

i guess... but he also always wears a cross. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.68.90 (talk) 21:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC) ya i heard he was christian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elayne123 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC) and also, during a magazine interview, he said he was christian and prayed alot more. And in It's OK, he says, "In the mist of this insanity i found my Christianity..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elayne123 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Also Known As

shouldnt we do an aka slim shady? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elayne123 (talk • contribs) 02:53, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Lyrical Abily

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2011-02-04-eminembard04_ST_N.htm

There is many things on this articles about Eminem's lyrical abilities, use it for reference if you want. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakim69 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Early Life

"By the age of 12" Eminem fell in a coma/Black out something when he was something like 10 so he was already at Detroit before 12. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakim69 (talk • contribs) 01:02, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 69.34.225.241, 3 February 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} REMOVE THE FOUL LANGUAGE

KEEP THE INTERNET CLEAN

69.34.225.241 (talk) 21:40, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Not done: -Atmoz (talk) 21:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Eminem's biggest influences

That would be Redman. He says it in several interviews and in some of his tracks. The rapper Redman, aka Reggie Noble, was a big influence for him, which lead Eminem to make a track with Red. F.E. in 'Till I Collapse' he says "I got a list, here's the order of my list that it's in: It goes Reggie ( Reggie Noble/Redman), Jay-Z, 2pac and Biggie, Andre from Outkast, Jada, Korrupt, Nas and then me [...]" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.217.139.90 (talk) 14:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Space Bound is the 4th Single

Confirmed by Paul Rosenberg in the detroit news.

http://detnews.com/article/20110208/ENT04/102080343/1424/ENT04/Eminem%E2%80%99s-two-Super-Bowl-ads-%E2%80%98coincidental%E2%80%99 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.109.219.254 (talk) 20:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

aut pak at bone

your either with the wilsons or your with christ you pick i choose christ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.135.166.239 (talk) 00:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 77.100.175.183, 26 February 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Eminem labels, need to have Shady added.

77.100.175.183 (talk) 14:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Is "Shady" a music label? Please explain in more detail, and provide a reliable source to support that label. Qwyrxian (talk) 15:13, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Shady Records in indeed a record label owned by Eminem
Official site: http://www.shadyrecords.com/
Allmusic ref: http://www.allmusic.com/album/eminem-presents-the-re-up-r867997 nikthestoned (talk) 15:42, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 76.222.121.176, 27 February 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Please change almost 29 million facebook likes to over 29 million, because he now has over 29 million likes on facebook. http://www.facebook.com/eminem

Back Flip45 (talk) 01:38, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Already done Qwyrxian (talk) 15:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Advert for iTunes

I've found in this wikipedia the following sentence: "It is now available on iTunes and is to be featured on Detox."

This is more an advert than an information in this Wikipedia. Please correct this, iTunes isn't the only Download Site!

--Maurice —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.68.102.75 (talk) 20:33, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Straight From the Vault

This shouldnt be included at all. It's songs that were leaked and the article misleads people into thinking Eminem released it. Koolo shouldnt be getting any kind of mention on wikipedia. Can that bit be deleted please. 89.100.251.183 (talk) 21:30, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Mchilders22, 4 March 2011

{{edit semi-protected}}

Mchilders22 (talk) 20:12, 4 March 2011 (UTC) Please change Eminem's 9x platnium certification on the Marshall Mathers LP album to Diamond status for selling over 10.3 million records. Thanks

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Stickee (talk) 06:21, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 71.251.57.43, 9 March 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Please add Nas and AZ to Eminem's lists of influences. Allmusic.com lists Nas and AZ as influences on Eminem; they list Outkast as well. MTV.Com also lists these same influences.

71.251.57.43 (talk) 00:32, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Not done: Where do these sources say that? Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:20, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

?

? When I first got on here, it said Eminem started in 2000. What happened to that? It didn't have 92-96 and 97-99. It was right at first because Eminem wasn't pro in 96. He did rap compititions. He started in 2000 with the song Slim Shady. It was even on Youtube and Vh1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.82.187.246 (talk) 04:02, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

... Proof was then allegedly shot by the bouncer Mario Etheridge, Bender's cousin. ...

alleged - declared but not proved; doubtful; suspect -- This word (allegedly) should be removed from the sentence. There isn't confusion about this event, that is what happened. The current wording gives an uninformed reader uncertainty about the incident. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.190.247.246 (talk) 01:04, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Was Mario Etheridge ever tried and proven guilty? If so it shouldn't be there. c.m1994 ( talk to me when, only if you are smart. 21:05, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Alter Ego

Eminem didn't include slim shady much like in WTP, So bad, it's clearly slim shady. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elayne123 (talk • contribs) 01:45, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

It Aint Over?

How is it an Eminem Album can get released with no reviews of it having been done anywhere?! Either way - this does seem like a new release to me:
Play.com
Amazon
hmv

Anyone heard, well, anything?!

nikthestoned (talk) 15:32, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Mother's inclusion in family section

I think Mathers turbulent relationship with his mother should be mentioned, Due to it being such a major factor in his life and lyrics. Songs like "Cleanin' Out My Closet And " My Mom" should be mentioned —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.216.100 (talk) 01:12, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Bad Meets Evil EP

Should this be included in the article? Or should we wait for more info? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.251.183 (talk) 13:21, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Horrorcore?

Eminem's in the horrorcore artists category, but the only time the word "horrocore" appears in this article is at the bottom in the categories list where that category is mentioned. I wouldn't call Eminem horrorcore... your mileage may vary though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.68.249.58 (talk) 08:36, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

the feuds section

I don't mean to insult anyone in particular, but whoever wrote parts pf the feuds section wrote it like they're on the street or something.

The information itself may or may not be accurate, but what I'm talking about is sentences like this:

     Em had Lyrics such as "99% of my fans are blonde, Bis come on answer me man respond!" 
     made it clear that Eminem is ready for the beef to be taken to the next level

I'm not asking for Harvard class sentences, but I am saying that maybe making the article sound more objective and educated would make it easier to understand what exactly is going on. I haven't read the whole article, but this may apply to other parts. 76.169.201.253 (talk) 17:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

The excerpt is inappropriate because it is drawing inferences from Eminem's lyrics. There is no requirement for there to be any grain of truth in any of his lyrics, so the article cannot draw assumptions from them. -Verdatum (talk) 18:49, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

I took a closer look at the passage. Much of the content is from a fansite, canibuscentral.com. In fact, a lot of it is copy-pasted which is a no-no. Fansites are generally considered poor references. They should not be relied upon for anything remotely contentious. I sorta tried to remove most everything other than a listing of specific songs that make obvious references to each other. More editing can probably be done.

The other portions of the feuds section should probably be reviewed pretty carefully as well. -Verdatum (talk) 19:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

drake lil wayne association

Why is drake and lil' wayn asociated yet g-unit is not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.196.35 (talk) 06:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

They shouldn't be and neither should G-Unit. Associated acts is reserved for groups the artist is/has been a part of, collaborated MULTIPLE times with on songs, or artists who have done collaborative albums together. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 21:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Recovery section

I think it's a little cluttered. It doesn't need to elaborate on every single collaboration he's done. That's what separate articles are for. If they need to be mentioned, just say who he collaborated with in a sentence or two. This is just my opinion. Jp0291 (talk) 02:53, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Template for "Bad Meets Evil"

Would this template be necessary? The songs listed in the template are also listed in each respective rapper template (except "Nuttin' to Do" on Royce da 5'9" template but it can be added if necessary) and the discography page is only linked to a section in the "Bad Meets Evil" article, which is also very small. I am just putting this out there, to determine if this specific template would be useful at all for the group. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 18:08, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Singles Sales

You have quite rightly given the number of albums that Eminem has sold but there is nothing of his singles sales. Other artists such as Lady Gaga(no disrespect) have their single sales mentioned however Eminem's sales have not. Therefor His total record sales have NOT been mentioned so I would like to request that his singles sales are also mentioned as he has had quite a number of sales, Love The Way You Lie alone has had 9.3 million downloads/sales. I would like to urge the editor to please do something on the matter. You could just open his discography to check his singles with hyper links, click on them and check their total sales. He has been active for over ten years so I believe it is necessary to mention his total sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saim.urman (talk • contribs) 14:22, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

2000

The CD Slim Shady LP was made in 2000. It said so on Vh1 and when I frist saw his page it said he started in 2000. Did Wikipedia change it?166.82.187.246 (talk) 13:38, 30 May 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.82.187.246 (talk)

The Eminem discography article uses Allmusic.com as the citation for the 1999 date: [2]. If you have a specific reliable source that can be verified, we can change this.

Also, "Wikipedia" doesn't change anything. Ordinary people like you and me change stuff :) You just need an established account to edit this particular article. -Verdatum (talk) 15:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

discography

- Marshall Law (2012)

where did this info come from? source please

68.81.152.141 (talk) 12:59, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Forgotten

"They later changed their name to "Soul Intent" and around 1995 they released their first single called "Fuckin' Backstabber" under the record label Mashin' Duck Records"

The Maxi-Single "Fuckin' Backstabber" of his group "Soul Intent" in 1995 consisting of 3 Tracks should definetly be added to his discography!

He was also named the best rapper in history by a some rappers including Drake, Game, and 50 Cent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.51.170.234 (talk) 10:38, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request

Someone should add

for obvious reasons. 98.88.21.183 (talk) 06:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Someone should add that he has more than 40 million likes on facebook, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.51.170.234 (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Superpato88, 9 June 2011

Eminem has also climbed to the top of the Facebook charts by being the most followed living person leaving Lady Gaga, Rihanna and Michael Jackson behind.

Superpato88 (talk) 03:57, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Done TGilmour (talk) 10:43, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

8 Mile Poster

Am I the only one cant figure out the fact that Em's right-handed on the promotional poster for 8 Mile? In official posters, he's left-handed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.141.111.179 (talk) 03:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Feud between Nick Cannon

Please add that the feud between Eminem and Nick has cooled down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.147.203.190 (talk) 10:17, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Guinness World Records

Could you please give his total guinness world records in his awards section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saim.urman (talk • contribs) 22:19, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

{{Main}}

In each section in the Musical career, there are "Main" templates to album articles. We should remove these as there are events that have happened during these eras that have nothing to do with the albums. I am not doing this because I wanted to be sure if this was alright. Thanks. WIKIPEDIAN Penguin ^(♫♫) 21:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Saturday Night Live in Filmography

Why is SNL in the Filmography section? He didn't act in it. It was just a live performance of the song. WIKIPEDIAN Penguin ^(♫♫) 16:56, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

2011 album

Hey, I don't know why anyone added this yet, but there is a 2011 album coming out. Eminem has leaked songs such as "Difficult", "Things Get Worse" feat. B.o.B., "Cocaine" feat. Jazmine Sullivan, and the most notable being "2.0 Boys" with Yelawolf and Slaughterhouse. There is information about this on Yelawolf's article and something on Shady Records's article. There are plenty of sources, even on XXL's website, and I can probably get that for you guys if that is what we need to add the 2011 album to this article. TomUSA (talk) 22:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia! Eminem has said nothing about a new solo release. We can't have speculation, according to WP:CRYSTAL. However, it could help if you posted the links to your articles. They can't hint a new album. They have to actually announce it, or else we can't have it here. Thanks! —WIKIPEDIAN Penguin ^(♫♫) 13:18, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I got ya. I saw articles on XXL and other websites we could've used as references (XXL would be the only one I'd trust). But on Yelawolf's page it said an album would be called Shady 2.0 but I guess that's just speculation. Thanks, TomUSA My talk page 18:31, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I just read a few articles on what you are talking about. What Yelawolf and XXL are talking about is the new Shady Records roster, which introduced Slaughterhouse (who were previously signed to E1) and Yelawolf (previously signed to Columbia). As for the leaked tracks, their inclusion in a new Eminem album is pure speculation. Thanks! —WIKIPEDIAN Penguin ^(♫♫) 19:32, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll add something when I find a valid source on another album. But for now, I think we should add something about the song leaks, no? TomUSA My talk page 20:05, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Per WP:LEAK states: "The date an album [or any other media] was leaked onto the Internet is not notable unless it results in some other action that is notable." That means that if the songs you mentioned have effected/provoked other events (lots of media coverage or important news from Eminem, etc.) than it may be worthy of mention. If you can find something like that and a reliable source, than put it in with explanation. Hope that helps.
WIKIPEDIAN PENGUIN ^(♫♫) 20:19, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it is a helpful statement, and thank you. I added things about the songs I found, and just yesterday, I found a lot more. But for now, we should only add the "2.0 Boys" song because it did spark another event, and that was the performance in April, 2011 Eminem did with Slaughterhouse and Yelawolf. So for now, I guess tht's all we will ad, but whenever we can, we'll add something about the others, because it seems there's a lot going on in that industry right now, but not until something else happens... TomUSA My talk page 20:03, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

The Leaks

"Recently, Eminem has leaked several songs without making any announcements to them or proposing the release of an album. "Cocaine" featuring Jazmine Sullivan was leaked in December, 2010. Upon Yelawolf and Slaughterhouse signing to Shady Records in January of 2011, they collaborated with Eminem to make a song called "2.0 Boys"[115] performing it in April, 2011. Eminem also leaked "Things Get Worse" featuring B.o.B. and "Dudey" which is a tribute song to Proof."

Eminem did NOT leak, "Cocaine", "Things Get Worse", or "Dudey", those songs were leaked months (oct-jan) ago by "Koolo", owner of studioleaks.info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.164.0.165 (talk) 21:48, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Of all of them, only "2.0 Boys" is worth mentioning at all, and even that I am a bit doubtful of. So I removed all the other songs from the page. WIKIPEDIAN PENGUIN ^(♫♫) 13:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Eminem didn't leak "2.0 Boys" but the other songs were leaked by someone. That's my point. But "2.0 Boys" really is the only one worth mentioning, and I think it would be a non-album single if anything. TomUSA My talk page 19:28, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Best sentence on wikipedia

The animus between Canibus and Eminem...

Just saying...--72.130.19.46 (talk) 05:07, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

/* L&K-MC */

New rapper called L&K-MC has been signed to Shady Records on 08/07/11. He made a album called Spin Off Mixtape released 2011. Luke Kaittani has made success in the rapping industry and is a future hit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.98.252 (talk) 18:37, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Please put a link that could be used as a reference on the Shady Records page. We can't add it unless there's proof of it. TomUSA 19:55, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Sir 08/07/11 hasn't occured yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoeusHelios22 (talk • contribs) 18:52, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Lol. The date format varies in parts of the world. Otherwise, he just made a mistake. As for 90.197.98.252, I googled L&K-MC and found nothing. I really don't know where you got that from. We don't want original research, of course. WIKIPEDIAN PENGUIN ^(♫♫) 22:36, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Eminem VS Moby

There is a fued that is not noted in the fueds section, and that is a highly notable fued with techno singer Moby. Eminem stated in "Without Me": "And Moby? You can get stomped by Obie / You 36 baldheaded fag, blow me / You don't know me, you're too old, let go / It's over, nobody listen to techno!"

Also, please view these links: [3] [4]

Someone who knows more about this should add it, I only know a little about the fued. Thanks, TomUSA 02:42, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Eminem saying something rude about somebody does not constitute a feud. If it did can you imagine how large the section would be? 98.244.116.15 (talk) 05:21, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Eminem has insulted many people and made long-going fueds. Moby was an actual fued that lasted a year, and if you read the links I put, it is a notable fued, or I wouldn't have bothered adding anything. If I thought him poking fun at celebrities constituted as a fued, then I also would have mentioned Kim Kardashian, Jessica Alba, Michael Jackson, John Mayor, and a thousand more. Moby actually took insult to Eminem's mentioning of him in "Without Me". I just used the song as the quickest reference because Wikipedia already has an article on the song. TomUSA 19:17, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Beef Section

The beef section is obviously written by a fan boy, it is very one-sided and holds many innaccuaracies as well as misspellings (no im not a speller either). I will fix it if I have time, but as it stands is nowhere near wikipedia standards 98.244.116.15 (talk) 05:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but you won't be able to edit this page unless you have a Wikipedia user account and wait a week. The page is locked from IPs and new users. TomUSA 19:26, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Evil as an alias

Should we really put Evil under "also known as" for him? I mean in the song "Bad Meets Evil" Em and Royce both say "He's Evil, and I'm Bad like Steve Segal" It's never really been clearly stated who's Bad and who's Evil Rouse52794 (talk) 03:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

• Hello. Please view this YouTube video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqPME1ZyM2Q

In this video, Eminem states himself "I'm Evil, and Royce is Bad" which would also give Royce the alias of Bad. For details, the video is uploaded by Eminem himself on to his own YouTube channel called "EminemMusic". TomUSA 02:30, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

My mistake. I've seen this video. Just slipped my mind. Thanks for refreshing my memory though. Guess this issue is resolved then Rouse52794 (talk) 03:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

He actually confirmed it in an interview with MTV RapFix a while ago before the "Fast Lane" video premiered. They actually called each other by these egos when working on the EP (NOT worth mentioning). You can also tell by the fonts used in the logo of Bad Meets Evil. WIKIPEDIAN PENGUIN ^(♫♫) 14:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

I realize you can tell by the fonts used, but I don't think this alone would have been enough to denote who's Bad and who's Evil. But as I said, this issue is resolved so it's of no matter now Rouse52794 (talk) 22:26, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the logo tells it all. Evil has the thick font with the backwards 'E' and Bad has the Medieval type of font which Royce uses. TomUSA 19:13, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I know this, but my point is it could be done just case it looks good. But again it doesn't matter now. Rouse52794 (talk) 18:10, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

New image

right|thumb|Eminem at the 2011 Grammy Awards.

I think it's time for a new file to put in the infobox, especially this one. In this one you can see Eminem better, and, the image is more recent. It is a picture of Eminem at the 2011 Grammy Awards, and I believe this one should be used. TomUSA 19:22, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Low quality. WIKIPEDIAN PENGUIN ^(♫♫) 03:17, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Influences and rapping technique

The Influences and rapping technique section states: "Eminem has named several MCs who influenced his rapping style, in-addition to his mentor, Dr. Dre, who share the same type of music: thick, muscular loops that evoked the terror and paranoia that his music conjured"

There needs to be some clarity here. Firstly, the punctuation is overly complex. But in-terms of content there is confusion also. Dr. Dre undoubtedly influenced Eminem's music; not his rapping style. They don't rap very similarly at all.

The first part of the sentence is about rapping style; the second part is about production style. West eh (talk) 17:11, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

It later goes on to name the following MCs, but some of which were left out for unstated reasons. As for the punctuation in the sentence, that can be taken care of, but citing Dr. Dre as having the same type of music is clear to any Dr. Dre or Eminem fan that it is untrue. Their music is indeed different in lyrics, instrumental, and message. But there have been times in which the two rapped about the same thing as if to have known each other their whole lives (see Guilty Conscience (Eminem song) and I Need A Doctor). Dr. Dre can still be cited as an influence, however. TomUSA 02:35, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. There is an important distinction to draw here, which is at the source of the issue with this section. There is a big difference between rapping influences and musical influences. Rapping influence refers to inherited characteristics like cadence, tone, rhyme pattern, even rhyming words. Where musical influence is more about the production work or the relationship between artists. There is no dount that Dr. Dre has been a musical influence of Eminem. But he didn't influence his cadence. If anything, Eminem has influenced Dre's rapping (Eminem writes for Dre). Currently, the section reads "Eminem has named several MCs who influenced his rapping style, in-addition to his mentor, Dr. Dre, who share the same type of music: thick, muscular loops that evoked the terror and paranoia that his music conjured,[135] these influences included..." In order to seperate the two ideas (musical/rapping influence), I would suggest having the list of rappers first, and then a seperate paragraph discussing Dre's influence below. West eh (talk) 04:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I've heard stories on TV about rpapers such as Royce da 5'9" talking about how they've seen Eminem "sit Dre down in the studio like a student," technically meaning that Eminem mentors Dr. Dre nowadays in the way that Dr. Dre used to mentor Eminem. No matter what, Eminem and Dr. Dre are still friends, and Dr. Dre has served as the ultimate influence for Eminem. It is pretty amazing how you start off as a kid stuck in your room listening to a rapper and years later become best friends with him. That's great. TomUSA 20:14, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Residence

Eminem lives on 8 Mile Road in Detroit, Michigan. [5]

Someone put in the infobox that he lives in Warren, Michigan. Warren is a suburb of Detroit, and Eminem grew up that during his teen years, but lives on 8 Mile Road in a neighborhood called Rochester Hills today which is in Detroit City itself. Not a suburb. Please view the link above, TomUSA 21:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Rochester Hills is NOT in the city of Detroit. It is a suburb about 16 miles north of Detroit. 8 Mile Road does not touch Rochester Hills whatsoever. -user:hsxeric 7/20/11

Then I have picked up an invalid source. The point is, he lives on 8 Mile Road in Detroit. Formerly Rochester Hills. I found that a couple days ago. It was my mixtake by finding the wrong link, but I read about it a while ago. During his career he moved to Rochester Hills but moved back. It was my fault, things are fixed up. TomUSA 19:27, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't mean to disagree with you, but I find it very hard to believe he moved back to 8 Mile Road. Do you have any sources supporting this? I live in metro-Detroit (exactly one mile north of 8 Mile road) and Em shops at my work and I have not heard anything about this. To be honest, if he moved back there, he would be bombarded by people all the time. -user:hsxeric 7/24/11

Like I said, the source I picked up is old. I can find others, but none that back up him living in 8 Mile Road. We did not add him living on 8 Mile Road to the page, just him living in Detroit. Also, very interesting Eminem shops at your store. TomUSA 18:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Associated acts: Lil Wayne

In the associated acts part of the infobox, it listed Lil Wayne as an associated act of Eminem. They have done some work together, such as Lil Wayne's song "Drop the World" with Eminem and Eminem's song "No Love" with Lil Wayne, as well as a new leaked song I found called "Inkredible" by Eminem featuring Lil Wayne (not worth mentioning due to the past discussion). Just because of 2 notable songs they were together in, they are not associated completely. That is like saying Eminem is associated acts with Dido or Akon even though only one collaboration was made between that duo. Eminem & Lil Wayne may work more in the future, but until then, they are not worth listing as associated acts. TomUSA 18:39, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Then why is Eminem listed on the associated acts section of Lil Wayne? Shouldn't they delete that too? --Bobjonespie (talk) 22:29, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

 Done. "DTW" and "No Love" are the only major collaborations the two did. As for "Forever", it was a collaboration of 4, not proving in any way a close relationship between the two rappers. WIKIPEDIAN PENGUIN ^(♫♫) 23:04, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

So then should Eminem be deleted from the associated acts of Lil Wayne? I just want to know that. --Bobjonespie (talk) 02:02, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

That is what I did. WIKIPEDIAN PENGUIN ^(♫♫) 02:57, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 4.245.33.114, 27 July 2011

Without Me 1 in Us

4.245.33.114 (talk) 02:08, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

 Not done — That's not an edit request. Be specific on what you want to change or put in. WIKIPEDIAN PENGUIN ^(♫♫) 02:43, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

_{Marking as answered. Jnorton7558 (talk) 03:02, 27 July 2011 (UTC)}

Plan D

Next big rapper. role model is eminem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.26.130.213 (talk) 00:25, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

And you got this info from where? WIKIPEDIAN PENGUIN ^(♫♫) 11:58, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Introduction

It's nice that his introduction has been shortened but could you mention his ranking on the lists of the greatest artists of all time including the rolling stones list which ranked him at #82. Could you also mention his world wide record sales. And what about his academy award? why is that not mentioned? These things are one of the highlights in his incredible career. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saim.urman (talk • contribs) 19:44, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Eminem#Legacy. Hope that answers your question. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:51, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Jfwirgaeoildhjn, 4 August 2011

|alias = Slim Shady

Jfwirgaeoildhjn (talk) 06:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

 Not done Read the first sentence of the article. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 12:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

We've already spoken about this in the discussion above. TomUSA 02:49, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

'Slim Shady' alias

How could someone remove 'Slim Shady' from the infobox? It is his ultimate alter ego, any Eminem fan knows this, and anyone reading about Eminem on Wikipedia for the first time should know this. Please don't remove Slim Shady from the also known as part of the infobox. TomUSA 18:43, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I reverted it because that spot is reserved for stage names, not alter egos. As for Bad Meets Evil, that's an official act and one could consider Evil as one half of it. Though that is questionably removable as well. WIKIPEDIAN PENGUIN ^(♫♫) 21:32, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Slim Shady may be more than a nickname, it is also an alter ego, but I've heard people refer to him as Slim Shady, and his works sometimes refer to him as Slim Shady, in the sense that they are 'one'. That is a metaphor from his creative sense, but he has been refered to as Slim Shady by himself, other rappers, and people I know. This is the kind of thing we don't need to source, it seems like non-Eminem fans even refer to him as Slim Shady. It's always been a nickname for him as well as a character, but it should be noted as a nickname as it always has in that infobox. TomUSA 23:31, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

You can try talking to Esanchez7587 as he made the first revert of that kind on this article. I now see what you're getting at. Also, another point I think Sanchez might be at is that the first sentence in the article already states that he is also known by his alter ego Slim Shady. Obviously, we can't be putting things such as B-Rabbit and Ken as the former is fictional and the latter is extremely minor. I hate to speculate, but Eminem could also be an ego with Marshall as the true self, like in "Beautiful". —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 07:00, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I've heard things that Eminem says that his stage name is Eminem, but Eminem is an alter ego in itself. Honestly, I think I could find more users that disagree with Esanchez7587 than an amount that agree with him. I've been and Eminem fan for years, and I know Slim Shady is an alter ego, but he often refers to himself as Slim Shady. Songs where he calls himself Slim Shady without being the character are "My Name Is", "Role Model", "Almost Famous", "Talkin' 2 Myself", "Cold Wind Blows", "Untitled", "Like Toy Soldiers" (you see in the video in the newspaper "Shady Under Siege") and a few more. Songs where he talks about or through the alter ego are "3 a.m.", "The Real Slim Shady", and "When I'm Gone". Please consider adding Slim Shady back to the infobox. TomUSA 20:04, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

This is unnecessary anyway as the first sentence, "Marshall Bruce Mathers III (born October 17, 1972),[1] better known by his stage name Eminem or his alter ego Slim Shady, is an American rapper, record producer, and actor," already says that he is also known as Shady. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 20:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

For now, let's not add it, but please consider re-adding it to the page. I highly believe it should be listed because other than it being an alter ego, people refer to him as Slim Shady. Though I highly disagree with your view on this, I am proud to finally be working on WikiProject Eminem. TomUSA 02:48, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I finally took the time to read the template documentation. The doc states that the parameter (alias) is reserved for official stage names, not nicknames. Neither Evil nor Shady are considered official stage names of Eminem, even if they are constantly referred to with such names. His labels have never considered 'Slim Shady' as one of their acts. So the spot is reserved or artists that have gone through more than one stage name, such as Sean Combs (Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, Diddy). —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:19, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from DisclosureFlow, 5 August 2011

In alias/ also known as, please add: Eminem, Slim Shady, B-Rabbit and Jimmy (both from the movie 8Mile) This names can be found mentioned by himself on his albums tracks and are stage names. DisclosureFlow (talk) 17:35, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Once again,  Not done. #'Slim Shady' alias. This has been discussed. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:09, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Elissakempin, 7 August 2011

Elissakempin (talk) 23:54, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Please change the age that Eminem's father left him from 18 months to 6 months. I just saw a 60 minutes interview with him, as interviewed by Anderson Cooper. He stated that he was 6 months old when his father left him and his mother.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - We'd need a link to the interview or something similar to be able to properly cite this statement. ^Avic_ennasis @ 03:53, 8 Av 5771 / 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Genre

I think we could be more specific with his genre. It's important for people reading about him to see the specific types of hip hop he does. It bothers me when it doesn't list all specific genres of an artist. I think it should say in the genres part of the infobox something like this: Hip hop, conscious hip hop, horrorcore, comedy hip hop, rap rock. Please consider this, TomUSA 02:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Also, for further details, I can list some songs by Eminem that fit the certain genres. His conscious rap songs include "Mosh", "White America", "Cleanin' Out My Closet", "Stan", "You're Never Over", "Deja Vu", "Going Through Changes", and "Not Afraid". His horrorcore songs show more in his 2009 album Relapse and include "3 a.m.", "Stay Wide Awake", "Same Song & Dance", and "Music Box". Also, Eminem has released many comedy hip hop songs, and during his traditional year he would have one comedy single per-album. For example, on The Slim Shady LP he had "My Name Is", on The Marshall Mathers LP he had "The Real Slim Shady", on The Eminem Show he had "Without Me", on Encore he had "Just Lose It", on Relapse he had "We Made You", and on Recovery he had "Untitled" at the end which fits more of a comedic tune. Finally, his rap rock songs off the top of my head inclue "Sing For The Moment" and "Won't Back Down" featuring P!nk. I think we should be specific with the genres on this page. TomUSA 19:24, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

You have an interesting point, but here's the issue: Template:Infobox_musical_artist#genre. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:51, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

OK. I think we should mention rap rock because it is its own genre. TomUSA 17:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Naw, that isn't a notable genre for his work. That would be for artists that have absolutely dedicated themselves to doing rap rock; Eminem hasn't done enough of those songs. Even if he did, that would still be too specific as alternative hip hop would be more suitable, but once again, that isn't his primary focus. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 17:10, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that on musician articles we technically focus only on the primary genre, such as hip hop. Eminem does do horrorcore hip hop, but it is still a subgenre, and thus is only mentioned as hip hop on his infobox. But horrorcore is something to put in the "3 a.m." infobox. I get it now. Besides, I only mentioned 2 rap rock songs, and I tihnk those are the only 2 rap rock songs he ever did. TomUSA 17:25, 14 August 2011 (UTC)