Talk:Emblem of the Comoros

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Protected for five days, no endorsement of the current version. Please don't edit war over this, the only way to get "your" version to stay is to convince others you're right, and find a consensus for it on this talk page.
As far as I can tell, the only reasoning from 81.111.114.131 in the page history is "per official documents". That doesn't say much, can you elaborate on that? Xanderliptak, you mention a discussion was already being held somewhere, can you elaborate on that? The one at Talk:National seal of the Comoros?
Amalthea 12:29, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} The correct target for this redirect is Flag of the Comoros, based on the official sources, the Talk:National seal of the Comoros discussion, and the lead of the Flag article. You can read the prior discussions. I'm not prepared to engage in discussion when the horse is long dead. 81.111.114.131 (talk) 14:32, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I have had a look at that discussion, yes. If I understand correctly, you base your preferred redirect on the sentence from the constitution you quoted: "L'emblème nationale est rouge, jaune, bleu, blanc, 4 étoiles, un croissant vert". It is my impression however that the "L'embléme nationale" here doesn't have the same meaning "National emblem" has in English. As an indication, have a look at the National emblem article, and contrast it with fr:Emblème national, which redirects to fr:Drapeau.
Of course, that doesn't justify redirecting it to National seal of the Comoros. In my understanding, a national seal has a quite different meaning than an emblem. Consequently, and since I don't find a better target, a deletion of the redirect might very well be the best option.
And please let's come to an agreement here first, the edit warring of the last days didn't help to resolve this disagreement, and I don't see it resolved at the discussion linked above either. And let's keep this in perspective, please: This redirect isn't linked to from any article, and the hits this page gets is really negligible so it doesn't appear to be prominently linked to elsewhere. Edit warring over it is really not worth it.
Amalthea 15:26, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

The page was created to be the home of Coat of arms of the Comoros, which needed to be renamed because it was not a coat of arms. This proved to be controversial to 81.111.114.131, and a long discussion ensued that encompassed this and two other pages, Coat of arms of Eritrea and Wikipedia:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology. Editors in the heraldry project wanted articles renamed more accurately, which would be to emblem in the generic form. However, 81.111.114.131 found the constitution which referred to a seal, albeit in French, and so it was decided to use "national seal" for the title by the admin who renamed it. Since the page had already been created, it was left as a redirect. Yes, the page could be deleted, as the Comoros is hardly a well searched entity. If it is to stay, though, the emblem page should link to the national seal article because of common name. No one is going to type in emblem and hope to find an article about flags, there has never been a discussion on an emblem page to redirect it to the flag page. Frankly, it doesn't matter what a constitution that is written in French says. There is not going to be that many English Wikipedia users that are going to go read a constitution that is written in French about a small island nation in another hemisphere, then translate that passage and then come to the English Wikipedia and type in verbatim what they translated in the effort to find out what is meant by the French term. It is a ridiculous claim, which may only occur once in the next century. However, someone trying to find out if the Comoros has a pictorial device for a report or what not will type in either 'coat of arms', 'emblem' or 'seal' of the Comoros. While even that will be slim, it is still the most likely occurrence, thus it should be to where the page, if kept, should link. [tk] XANDERLIPTAK 18:08, 26 May 2010 (UTC)