Talk:Elizabeth Schrader Polczer

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Original Libbie Schrader Page

Click here to see Libbie's original Wiki page (before I started messing with it) Nemonoman (talk) 21:03, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notes sent to me from Elizabeth Schrader

After her review of the article, I received a forwarded note from Elizabeth Schrader:

My last name is now Schrader Polczer, not Polczer. (My husband giggled at the page’s implication that he was the one who appeared on the Gilmore Girls!) For clarity’s sake, Schrader should be there in every reference. I also wonder if the bio should just be “Schrader” for all of the things that happened in my life when my last name was “Schrader”? That is, in fact, everything on there, since we just got married in July!

”The Wash” and “Think of England” were the exact same band. We just had to change our name after we won the Pantene contest because apparently somebody else had the name “The Wash.”

I’ve done a few small presentations at Duke Divinity, but my biggest academic presentation by far was at Vanderbilt Divinity School back in March, when I presented the Carpenter Program Women’s History Month Lecture. That’s probably the most important one to highlight.

I’m not sure this works: ”She is particularly concerned with unexplained changes to early texts that she believes attempt to minimize Mary Magdalene’s role as a Disciple and Apostle” As a scholar, it’s not about what I believe, it’s about what I argue. This might work better: “She is particularly concerned with the many textual variants around the name ‘Maria’ in manuscripts of John’s Gospel, and argues that such textual instabilities might be connected to early controversies around Mary Magdalene.”

Unfortunately the CD Baby link (in References, #3) is now broken. :( Probably Apple Music and Amazon Music are the best way for people to find me.

I’m not a big fan of random strangers on the internet knowing my exact birthday, birthplace, and age. TMI!! I don’t know if there’s a way to get that off of there, but if it’s Wikipedia “standard” I understand.

Nemonoman (talk) 17:56, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Naming Approach

Based on her name concerns, I have reviewed the Wiki manual of style quoted below.

Pseudonyms, stage names, nicknames, hypocorisms, and common names

For people who are best known by a pseudonym, the legal name should usually appear first in the article, followed closely by the pseudonym. Follow this practice even if the article itself is titled with the pseudonym:
Louis Bert Lindley Jr. (June 29, 1919 – December 8, 1983), better known by the stage name Slim Pickens
If a person is known by a nickname used in lieu of or in addition to a given name, and it is not a common hypocorism[j] of one of their names, or a professional alias, it is usually presented between double quotation marks following the last given name or initial. The quotation marks are not put in lead-section boldface. Example:
From Bunny Berigan: Roland Bernard "Bunny" Berigan.
From Tina Fey: Elizabeth Stamatina "Tina" Fey.

Based on this info, I'm handling her name as follows:

Elizabeth Schrader Polczer, better known as Elizabeth Schrader, is an American biblical scholar who focuses on textual studies concerning Mary Magdalene. the Gospel of John, and the Nag Hammadi corpus. Before transitioning to her academic focus, she was a singer-songwriter professionally known as Libbie Schrader.

All follow-on last name references will then be to Schrader. The article title will remain Elizabeth Schrader Polczer, as will the name shown in the infobox. Nemonoman (talk) 17:59, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My use of externa l links and deleting the External Links tag

I have reviewed the intentionally ambiguous message of this tag ("may not follow Wikipedia guidelines..."). There has been no followup to the tag, and no specific concerns have been cited.

If there are specific problems, I'd be glad to get them fixed. Also, other editors should feel free to fix them. Nemonoman (talk) 14:03, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]