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Did you know... that Sister Elizabeth Sander, who was imprisoned for carrying "lewd books", escaped twice?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 04:23, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that after Sister Elizabeth Sander, escaped twice from imprisonment for carrying "lewd books", she returned to Winchester Castle? ...breakyng pryson', left to attend mass, where she was ... imprisoned at Winchester Castle...she escaped this second imprisonment 'downe by a rope over the castle wall'. She then encountered additional priests who urged her 'to go back agayne to pryson' at Winchester Castle. (ODNB)
- ALT1:... that Sister Elizabeth Sander, who was imprisoned for carrying "lewd books", escaped twice?
- ALT2:... that Sister Elizabeth Sander's second escape was from Winchester Castle after she was arrested for carrying lewd books?

Reviewed: Audrey Forlani

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 5 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

The article makes no mention of the fact she returned "...because she was law abiding" nor does the source, which says she returned because she was urged to by some priests. Tne act then demonstrated (edified) to her keepers that Catholics were"...truthful and straightforward..... even with their persecutors" and as a result, she was given greater freedoms. In fact, the imprisoned priests told her of the necessity of obeying English law with good conscience but she would not and escaped instead.

The hook is also slightly ambiguous in that it sounds firstly, as if she escaped from imprisonment for carrying "lewd books"; and secondly, she returned of her own accord on both occasions (when in the first instance, she was recaptured).

What about, ALT1: ... that Sister Elizabeth Sander, having been imprisoned for carrying "lewd books", escaped but later returned and was rewarded for her honesty with greater freedoms? Or something similar?--Ykraps (talk) 23:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Victuallers: Are you intending to proceed with this nomination? In all other respects it is good to go: long enough, new enough, policy compliant, no close paraphrasing etc; just the current hook is neither in the article nor the source.--Ykraps (talk) 08:31, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I am Victuallers (talk) 08:45, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, ping me if needs be.--Ykraps (talk) 10:26, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ykraps: Thanks for your patience. I have added two alts and removed the words you could not find my paraphrase for. Ping me if you need a tweak (or just do it), Cheers Victuallers (talk) 10:13, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Any of those are okay by me. Everything else checks out.--Ykraps (talk) 11:03, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]