Talk:Elisabeth Shue

Picture

Can someone please replace the picture,it's pretty painful to look at. Sugreev2001 (talk) 20:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree. There has to be a better current picture than that one. 02:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)FulanitoGM (talk) 02:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Will Shue

I find only conflicting information about the tragic death of Elisabeth Shue's brother. On the web, he variously died in Rhode Island or Maine; meanwhile friends of theirs in Maplewood said it was New Hampshire. Some write that he was accidentally impaled; others that he fell into a ravine. Until we get better information, I propose that we leave it with the undisputed facts, which is that he died in an accident while on a family vacation. I think it's appropriate that we're sensitive about this and avoid sensationalizing it. Chances are more information will become available as the new movie Gracie gets press. --Leifern 00:00, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

She Works Hard for the Money?

Is this for real? I can find no reference to this anywhere else that isn't just the blurb listed here copied and pasted. Is this vandalism? James Cameron is certainly not working on such a film at present (nor is he particularly likely to ever make a movie of that sort). He's in the midst of an entirely different project at present. I'm inclined to just remove this, but I don't want to if, by some fluke, it's actually at least partially accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.74.65.213 (talk) 16:24, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

References on Her Family Are Nearly All Unverifiable

Except for the NY Times article (and we don't know where they got their information from), nearly all of the references to Elisabeth Shue's family are unverifiable on the internet - especially that of her father. I am removing them if they do not actually say what the contributing editor implies they say by attaching these references to unstated information (as their source).... If someone has better sources or any viable source at all please include it. One of the 4 references attached to this section actually goes to another article that gets its information from Wikipedia - which makes it a complete loop back to this article as the original source. Stevenmitchell (talk) 02:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

She is also Jewish through her fathers side. Where does the German come in from? Her brother Andrew himself identified as a Jew in an interview through their father. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.202.248 (talk) 08:53, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

New image

User EauZenCashHaveIt posted on BLPN in regards to the page's current image in the infobox. I agree with the user, the current image is pretty bad. Feedback from others and possible alternate pictures would be appreciated. Meatsgains (talk) 03:27, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't think the age of the image matters all that much, and I would favour using the other image in the article for the infobox, even if it is a couple of years older. StAnselm (talk) 03:42, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Sure, I have no objection to that. I am still unsure as for how to look for an image anywhere that wouldn't raise copyright issues. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 10:25, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Pinging Meatsgains and StAnselm: how about the images on this page? Please help me determine their copyright status. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 00:27, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Why would you think any of those images are OK? In any case, it says "© 2006-2016 Fanpop, Inc., All Rights Reserved" at the bottom of the page. Probably the only free images are already in Commons; this google search shows the usable ones, but many of those results are not of Shue. StAnselm (talk) 01:46, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

The images from Fanpop are a no go... What does everyone this about using this one? Meatsgains (talk) 01:50, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Better, but I prefer the one I changed the image to, since it shows more of the face. --GRuban (talk) 18:56, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

@GRuban: this is the image we decided to remove. Please don't reinsert it. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 22:44, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Really? You prefer an image that covers the face with sunglasses? Why? --GRuban (talk) 22:47, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

It's the older image from 2007 that we decided is better than the 2009 image you reinstated. Please look at older revisions. This picture shows more face, but is very unflattering. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 22:50, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I disagree, I think it looks much better. I thought you meant the sunglasses one looked horrible, that I would agree with. --GRuban (talk) 22:52, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

I prefer the image above over the one with sunglass and the one that was previously on the page. The one above is more flattering and her face is not covered with sunglasses. Meatsgains (talk) 03:50, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

The image in this discussion is fine, the removed one is not - it looks like a paparazzi shot. We should use photos that portray the article subject in the most flattering way possible. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 04:49, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

OK. --GRuban (talk) 14:05, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Unsourced roles

@Rob-1974:, with regard to this edit, can you please rationalise why you've reinstated unsourced information into the article, and information that has been challenged for sources since October 2018?

I see that you've made many edits to this article, including this addition here which is basically the same section as I removed but called "Trivia" instead. It was removed by another editor which you subsequently reverted here without rationale.

Either find sources for these claims, or they will be removed - you've had 7 months since challenged over it to do so.

You've also editwarred over this section before between 13 October 2018 - 22nd October 2018 which resulted in the {{CN}} tags being applied. Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:08, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Chaheel Riens - all this info is correct and is easily found by doing a general search on Elisabeth Shue (with the exception of Teresa's Tattoo role which I read in an old edition of Film Review magazine in the 90s). The problem is I do not know how to link articles into Wikipedia pages hence why I have not done this, I've now put the links below for info. I didn't realize it was only up to me to link the source of the info.

For Pitch - https://deadline.com/2016/03/ali-larter-pitch-elisabeth-shue-replace-fox-pilot-recasting-1201718392/

For The Number 23, Say Anything, Of Mice & Men - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000223/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_qt_sm#quotes

If you want to keep the information, then it's up to you to source and insert the sources. You've had nearly a year to do so, and 7 months since being warned to do so. If you can't be bothered to learn how to do this, then the information doesn't deserve to stay as it's obviously not that important. Also, IMDB is not a reliable source as it's unverified user-generated content - you'll need to find another one for that. Chaheel Riens (talk) 11:11, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Chaheel Riens - I'm only an occasional user but a big fan of Elisabeth Shue hence when I have edited the page when I could. It's not that I can't be bothered to learn how to tag links, I've just found it difficult to find instructions, and therefore all my edits to date are self taught. Also didn't realize it was only up to me to reference info. I've explained I don't know how to do this and instead of being helpful and possibly posting a link to this you just appear obnoxious and rude. This used to be a fun place to find out trivia but unfortunately a small percentage of users like yourself act like self-made moderators, so if you're losing sleep over it then just delete it if you can't be helpful and explain/post link.

It's not up to you per se to find sources, but up to the person(s) who want challenged and unsourced material to stay in - although in this case the one and the two are the same.

I'm only appearing to be obnoxious and rude because you're appearing to be lazy and arrogant. It should have been apparent back in October 2018 that your edits needed more work, and you could have spent time then looking up how to do things. You are instead insinuating that others should do your work for you, even when it has been demonstrated that that isn't going to happen.

Your talk page includes a welcome template that has all the links you need, or you could have clicked on the plethora of {{cn}} tags in the contested section - each one of those will take you to a page that will help explain how to find and add reliable sources.

Let's not also lose sight of the fact that you are also acting like a "self-made moderator" with your insistence that the material is kept, and that others source it for you.

If you're genuinely unable to figure out how to add and find sources then Wikipedia may not be for you, but as a parting gift: WP:RELIABLE. Editing the existing article will show you the format and how to add them once found.

Can you also sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~), as you've already been asked on your talk page please. Thanks. Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Rob-1974 (talk) 08:52, 16 May 2019 (UTC)Thanks for being helpful with the link. I've just been having a look online and found various articles to support this, plus discovered other roles along the way so all good. Will post links soon. I have just checked my Talk page and can't see any mention of asking me to sign posts but doing it in this post to see if this is what you mean.