Talk:Elisabeth Loewe

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The prod is incorrect in claiming that there are no citations. There is one source listed by Christoph Meckel published in Die Waage. No inline citations is not sufficient reason to delete (or any kind of reason). The artist's Facebook fanclub have posted that article here (in German). It seems sufficiently in-depth to count for notability. SpinningSpark 18:29, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Spinningspark, can you really not distinguish between a source and a citation? No-one cares a tuppenny damn for what somebody has posted on Facebook – Wikipedia is built on independent reliable sources, and Facebook definitely doesn't qualify as one – ever. Oh, and Die Waage appears to have been a consortium of German industrialists.

Anyway, unless you you add some solid WP:RS to this page in the next day or so I'll probably go ahead and send it to AfD. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dagmar Calais for the other page created by this editor. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:21, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is no difference between citations and references in Wikipedia terminology. The very first words of Wikipedia:Citing sources are A citation, also called a reference,.... From WP:GENREF A general reference is a citation to a reliable source that supports content, but is not linked to any particular text in the article through an inline citation.

Your strawman argument concerning Facebook is childish and ridiculous. Of course I'm not asserting that Facebook is a reliable source – I linked to it because it was the only place I could find an online copy of the article. I'm asserting that Die Waage is a reliable source. And no, the Die Waage cited is not a consortium of industrialists, it is (or was) a periodical from the 1960s and 70s. See this at ZVAB and its entry at Worldcat. In any case, even if Meckel's article had originitated on Facebook (which it hadn't) it would still be a reliable source since Meckel counts under WP:SPS as previously published in the relevant field Scholar results. SpinningSpark 14:43, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]