Talk:Eliano Reijnders

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Birthplace: Finland or the Netherlands?

Some sources (for example:^[1]^[2]) seem to claim that he was born in Tampere, Finland, when his father, Martin Reynders, played for FC Haka, a club headquartered near Tampere. But some sources say he was born in Zwolle, Netherlands. Which one is correct?
Also, if he's not a Finnish citizen, then he shouldn't be in categories like Category:Finnish people of Indonesian descent, Category:Finnish people of Dutch descent and Category:Finnish men's footballers. 2001:14BA:9C40:0:75D6:372E:872D:826F (talk) 22:43, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most often, we go with the simplest trustworthy source. FBref [1] lists Zwolle, as does Soccerway [2] and the Eredivisie website [3]. Anwegmann (talk) 23:33, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wonder if his "de facto birthplace" is Tampere, but the "de jure birthplace" is Zwolle, because some sources seem to insist that he was born in Tampere, which would be a rather weird and random place, being in a different country and all. I mean, I don't know how it works in other countries, but here in Finland, a person's birthplace is determined by the municipality where the mother is a legal resident, not by the actual place of birth. So maybe Reijnders' mother was on a quick visit to Finland when she gave birth there, but quickly returned to her home(?) city of Zwolle. Anyway, since I don't have any sources for this and I'm not sure how these matters are handled on Wikipedia, I think we should wait for more information. 2001:14BA:9C40:0:2806:8F88:B911:430A (talk) 17:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Berends, Sander (5 November 2021). "Martin, Tijjani en Eliano Reijnders: "Het vaakst wordt me gevraagd: wie van de twee is de beste?"". ELF Voetbal [nl] (in Dutch). Retrieved 8 September 2024.
^ Baskoro, Bayu (7 September 2024). "Eliano Reijnders, Adik Bintang AC Milan yang Mau Dinaturalisasi RI". Detik.com (in Indonesian). Retrieved 8 September 2024.

Official full name of Eliano Reijnders

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U5qIj3lsHV82ZQujUgrwPXMQ5Mxwpplx/view?usp=sharing

In this leaked official documents, his actual full name is Eliano Johannes Reijnders.

His actual full name does not include mother surname, as Dutch surname is not similar as Spanish one.

If the edit performed frequently regarding his full name, please consider extended protection. Gunaharwisers (talk) 09:53, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Read WP:OR. Anwegmann (talk) 09:55, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Berends, Sander (5 November 2021). "Martin, Tijjani en Eliano Reijnders: "Het vaakst wordt me gevraagd: wie van de twee is de beste?"". ELF Voetbal [nl] (in Dutch). Retrieved 8 September 2024.

[2] Baskoro, Bayu (7 September 2024). "Eliano Reijnders, Adik Bintang AC Milan yang Mau Dinaturalisasi RI". Detik.com (in Indonesian). Retrieved 8 September 2024.

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