Talk:Eleine (band)

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Formation section

Michael13111983, is there a reason why you are removing the backstory of the formation of the band? It's been documented with sources on how the group was created. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:51, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Angus! :) Thank you for getting in touch sir! Yes! As per the request of the band, this part would be preferable to not be included on the article! If possible of course! :) Michael13111983 (talk) 18:12, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Michael13111983, what do you mean "at the request of the band"? Are you corresponding with them to make this article? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:46, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Angus! Yes! :) It's perfect as it is, with the exclusion of that part actually! :) Michael13111983 (talk) 20:31, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Michael13111983, that means you have an associated conflict of interest with the subject. Please read WP:PROUD and WP:COI. There may be content that the band would rather not see, but if it's true and neutral and reported by external news sources, then it can stay. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:14, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed AngusWolf! Then the first line must go because there are no associated references of it online. Michael13111983 (talk) 07:48, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Untruthful origin.

The origin and history of this band is untruthful and just wrong. It excludes the producer and songwriter Christian Wolf, who actually started this project long before Madeleine was even chosen to front it. Rikard Ekberg wasn't even a part of it for the first year and was only involved when there was a problem with the guitarrist that played on Gathering Storm.

It looks like the author and moderator of this article is heavily biased toward the bands suggestions and it should not be that way.

Wikipedia is supposed to be an iformation platform not a promotional one. Ocwolf68 (talk) 16:08, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Links that tells the truth...

https://web.archive.org/web/20230914172049/https://misseleine.blogg.se/2013/july/jobbar-i-studion.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20230914172047/https://misseleine.blogg.se/2013/july/jobb-i-ystad.html Ocwolf68 (talk) 16:12, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are you saying that the article with Madeleine is untruthful?

Can add the info about Wolf as producer and songwriter for Madeleine's early work with those blog pages as references. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:59, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OCwolf68, are you associated with Christian Wolf?

I looked at some of the blog posts prior to July 2013, but it doesn't really mention Wolf, but more Rikard. Can you provide more references? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:12, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The two links I provided clearly points at My involvement.

Yes, I am Christian Wolf, just so you know.

I do have loads of mail conversations that proove my point but it would not be proper to link them here. Ocwolf68 (talk) 17:31, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What irks me is that even thoughI was the founder of the project and really the one that set the baseline for what would become Eleine, I am titally excluded in the origin and history.

This project was my baby, my dream. It came to life with Eleine and I have no problem with them moving forward without me. But exclude me from history. That I have a problem with. Ocwolf68 (talk) 17:37, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the first album it is clear that three songs was writen by me alone and I was cowriter for the rest. This is indisputable. Ocwolf68 (talk) 17:52, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry for my dyslectic typos though. Ocwolf68 (talk) 17:54, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ocwolf68, yes, I see your credits in discogs or can verify with the music platforms on the first album.

I updated the origins/history paragraph to include you in there. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:59, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Just to get mentioned is enough. Ocwolf68 (talk) 07:43, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If i can be nitpicking, I actually produced their first album. Perhaps that could be more clear? Ocwolf68 (talk) 19:08, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggetsion. Something like this... "Christian Wolf produced their first album and wrote some of the songs himself but most of them was written togeather with Madeleine and Rickard. Ocwolf68 (talk) 19:19, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]