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The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure) ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 06:37, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Electric multiple unit (Queensland Rail) → Electric Multiple Unit (Queensland Rail) – Currently the Queensland Rail rolling stock articles are named in a combination of upper and lower case format. Official name per operator Queensland Rail is to capitalise all words (Electric Multiple Unit) vs (Electric multiple unit) [1] while many secondary sources use the EMU acronym.

The Manual of style section on trademarks states editors should choose among styles already in common use (not invent new ones) and, among those, use the style that most closely resembles standard English text formatting and capitalization rules. Can't find any examples of Electric multiple unit being used other than on Wikipedia, so suggest article should be renamed Electric Multiple Unit. Primetime44 (talk) 05:45, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per MOS:CAPS and per WP:CONSISTENT with other similar articles, especially the obvious Electric multiple unit. This is a class of things, not a thing, so this is a common-noun phrase not a proper name. Cf. all the zillion prior RMs of ocean vessel classes, music genres, roadway types, non-trademarked sports and games and dances (and classes thereof), etc., etc., etc. The fact than an "official" source prefers to capitalize is meaningless (this is almost always the case is in the bureaucratese of government agencies/ministries, and in the marketing-style materials of manufacturers; both styles rampantly overcapitalize for emphasis, which is against the first rule of MOS:CAPS. It simply isn't an encyclopedic writing style. And there isn't anything magically special about Queensland. PS: No, do not use "mixed" case; this should appear as "electric multiple unit" in mid-sentence, not "Electric multiple unit". — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 08:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose—why on Earth?? What doubt is there when "Queensland Rail" is embedded in the title? To cap would go against our style guides ... and reasonable practice. Tony (talk) 09:24, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per MOS:CAPS and WP:CONSISTENT per the reasoning of SmCandlish. Coastie43 (talk) 01:54, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Per suburban multiple unit, this proposal is at odds with MOS:CAPS. Shem (talk) 21:58, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Not sure of how to cite this information

As per the latest edit, I added info from an official ASEA source that this guy photographed, which I'm unsure of how to cite. Please help me by changing it up a bit. Edgar Searle (talk) 06:36, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just gave it a tweak now. Good work finding it! XAM2175 ^(T) 11:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]