Talk:Egyptian League Cup

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Requested move 8 June 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Nominator has demonstrated that the proposed move will improve the accuracy of the titles, and has addressed the one point of opposition by providing sources to explain the change. As suggested late in the discussion, the article originally titled Egyptian League Cup is moved to EFA League Cup; thus, this move essentially results in these two articles switching titles. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:49, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

EFA League Cup → Egyptian League Cup
Egyptian League Cup → ?

– The competition, currently known on Wikipedia as the EFA League Cup, is in fact not organized by the Egyptian Football Association, but by the Egyptian Professional Football Clubs Association. The current title is wrong, as the only cup competition organized in Egypt by the EFA is the Egypt Cup; the main football cup competition in the country. All sources in the article confirms what I'm saying, with only the first cited source by Al-Ahram referring to the competition as the EFA League Cup. I believe that the name I proposed is the best for the article.

For the other competition, which is currently tilted Egyptian League Cup, I'm not sure which is the best possible title, but I'm sure there are better alternatives. Ben5218 (talk) 09:30, 8 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 09:43, 15 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 23:11, 22 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:57, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support - But the organising body according to the article says "Egyptian Football Association", which needs to be changed.Jõsé^hola 07:37, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I can do that once the article title is changed. Ben5218 (talk) 22:18, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 20:36, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - no sources presented. GiantSnowman 20:39, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sources:
- FilGoal - Mentioned in the article: (The draw for the Egyptian Clubs' Association Cup will be held today, Monday, at 2 PM)
- Sputnik - Title: (Amer Hussein talks about the start date of the Egyptian League Cup and the reasons for the postponement)
- Al-Ahram - Title: (EPL announce League Cup round of 16 matches dates) - Mentioned in the article: (The Egyptian Professional Clubs Association has announced the dates of the round of 16 matches for the Egyptian League Cup)
Ben5218 (talk) 22:24, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: There may be consensus for moving this to Egyptian League Cup, but we need a title for the current article at Egyptian League Cup, or at least some disambiguation. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 09:43, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

After thinking about it again, maybe merging both articles would be a better option. The article currently named Egyptian League Cup doesn't have a lot of content, so we can merge it with EFA League Cup and add its details in one of the sections. For example, create a History section, and write something like:

"The first edition of the tournament was held in 2000, organized by the Egyptian Football Association, where all 14 teams participating in the 1999–2000 Egyptian Premier League were allowed to take part in the competition without national team players during the international break, except Al Ahly, Al Ittihad and El Mansoura, who all refused to enter the tournament. El Qanah won the cup after defeating Dina Farms 1–0 in the final. After that edition, the EFA decided against continuing the competition, and it was abolished."

~~Then we can explain why the competition was abolished, and how the new one started. I can do that by myself, if this proposal is approved. Ben5218 (talk) 04:55, 17 June 2023 (UTC)~~[reply]

Relisting comment: Further discussion of what to do with Egyptian League Cup required BilledMammal (talk) 10:57, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thinking about it again, I believe a better option would be moving the content located at Egyptian League Cup (the competition organized by the EFA) to EFA League Cup, since that would make sense because the EFA were the organizers; while the content currently located at EFA League Cup should be moved the other way to Egyptian League Cup, as this is the current active competition in Egyptian football with this name, and also more notable than the old one. Sources also refer to it with this name, as I mentioned before above last month. Ben5218 (talk) 17:25, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I've rewritten most parts of the article and added correct info with sources. Ben5218 (talk) 10:02, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.