Talk:Egg predation/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jens Lallensack (talk · contribs) 20:52, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Reviewing now. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 20:52, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

I honestly don't think this is anywhere close to meeting the GA criteria. Only some main points here:

• Start more slowly, define things, provide more background. The "Ecological relationship" starts well with a general definition, but then jumps to the next thing and then to the next, and then we are left with a list of non-coherent examples. Structure and a common threat is lacking in this article.
  • Reworked.

• Ovivores, for example: the term should be defined in a sentence of its own, and I think there should be a "Definitions" sections discussing the terminology.
  • Added.

• The article is poorly organized, including single-sentence paragraphs, and one single heading to capture all.
  • Reorganized.

• Many important aspects of the article are not covered at all, including, but not limited to:
  • the fossil record (Sanajeh comes to mind, but there is more; which is the oldest record of egg predation? Also see Oviraptor ("egg thief") for misinterpretations)
    • Added both.
  • Controlling of egg predators (search for DRC-1339 treated eggs)
    • Added.
  • Strategies to avoid egg predators in animals (only touched on, but there must be much more)
    • Added.
  • r/K selection theory surely needs to be discussed as well
    • Added.
  • Some of the topics already briefly mentioned would, I think, need their own section, e.g. egg predation of introduced species (especially on islands).
    • Added.
  • Also, adaptations for egg predation, both anatomical and behavioral (using stones to crack open eggs, etc.)
    • Added some corvid behaviour.

• In sum, I think GA criterion 3 is not met. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 21:06, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Many thanks. I've reworked the article with the additions you suggest. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:26, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

More

• Wow, MUCH better already! More points below …
  • Thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:51, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

• in which they consume the eggs of other species. – this does not seem to be a necessity, see [1] as an example for intraspecific egg predation.
  • Fixed.
• Lead: Egg predation is found widely across the animal kingdom, – the following list of groups reads repetitive, as the first sentence already states "including fish, birds, snakes and insects". Maybe shorten the latter accordingly?
  • Done.
• Lead lacks some wikilinks
  • Edited.
• including in insects – why restricting to insects rather than arthropods? See here fore egg predation by copepods: [2]
  • Fixed.
• Lead: Snakes specialising in egg predation have greatly reduced venom, implying that the main function of venom is to subdue prey. – I think the lead should focus on summarizing the general points made in the article, not on specific examples?
  • Removed.
• late Cretaceous --> Late Cretaceous
  • Done.
• link Sanajeh in image caption?
  • Done.
• such as Eider ducks – why is it capitalised?
  • Fixed.
• Optional: An interesting and complex case of nest predation here [3], might be worth to mention.
  • A curious case. Added.
• Maybe it is worth stating the difference between egg predation and egg parasitism? --Jens Lallensack (talk) 13:49, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Added. Addressed all the comments to date. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:06, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Closing note: The article made a huge step forwards, and is no meeting the GA criteria. Congrats! --Jens Lallensack (talk) 19:57, 11 January 2022 (UTC)