Talk:Egg in the basket

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Too Funny!

This is the most hilarious Wikipedia article I have ever read. Good lord, how many names can you give a piece of bread served with an egg? The photo is probably the best part of the article. I still can't stop laughing! (October 13th, 2006, 3:40pm EST.)

What happened to this article? Naruto references? Someone tell me what's going on! 31/10/06, 5:40PM

Names (again!)

Okay, so at least now people are adding names with references, which is obviously an improvement. But just having references is not really sufficient. There must be 100+ names around the world for this dish, and a list of 100 names would look horrible even if they all had solid references. It would be like one of those awful "X in popular culture" sections in other articles where things along the lines of "An X appeared for three seconds in series 385 of The Simpsons" take up 200 lines. If we absolutely must have a great long list, then surely we could at least separate it out into a List of alternative names for egg in the basket article. Loganberry (Talk) 15:12, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let's remove alternate names unless there is a source that the usage is widespread or unless there is more than one independent source for the name. Otherwise there will be a host of entries for names used by one writer's grandmother. Jonathunder (talk) 18:56, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the names, at least those with references. The first time you make it for a group, half of the discussion is everyone telling you hnat they called it as a kid. Plus, every this gets mentioned on the Internet, people start listing lots of names, and eventually someone links here. (BTW, the first time I ate them, I was told they were called "gashouse eggs". Years later, I found out (possibly from an earlier version of this article) that the name was from a famous book.) Vrmlguy (talk) 12:27, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's also the name my folks used always call these when i was a kid. --Kaini (talk) 14:37, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

the progression of this article over time is actually hilarious, it seems nothing can be done to stem the endless tide of names people seem to want to add (the reason i abandoned list of dubstep artists). gashouse eggs must resonate deeply as a childhood thing for a lot of people --Kaini (talk) 22:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be a slight edit war. An anon editor insists on referring to Egg in a Basket as "Toad in the hole" in the lead sentence, even bolding it. I changed the lead reference back to Egg in a Basket a few days ago, but now it's back to being referred to as Toad in the hole. Which, by the way, I thought was a Yorkshire pudding-covered sausage dish. Can we please prevent this sort of thing from happening? --MicahBrwn (talk) 05:34, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

in my experience, toad in the hole tends to refer to a mixture of sausage, mashed potatoes, egg, onion, cabbage... whatever's to hand, with the defining characteristic being 'leftovers fried in a pan' (see also boxty, clapshot, colcannon, bubble and squeak, rumbledethumps, stamppot) - toad in the hole is certainly not as specific as just this particular dish. --Kaini (talk) 05:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Of the twenty-one alternate names given, the source for twenty of them were just personal blogs or anyone-can-submit-a-page recipe sites where people state their preferred name for the dish. ("Frog and a hole" is the only remotely reliable source, although even then it's just some TV chef calling it that.) Given the weakness of these sources, I've cut the whole section. --McGeddon (talk) 09:42, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I came here to see what the alternate names for this dish are. The well-referenced ones really should be put back, since now there is no info. 207.180.167.75 (talk) 15:42, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As I say above, there were no well-referenced names. --McGeddon (talk) 15:59, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Toad in the hole is more than just an alternate name

I edited the about section, adding the name Toad in the Hole, rather than simply including it as an alternate name. The rationale for this was the clearly it is a primary name for this item, noting that a) the Toad in the Hole page specifically highlights this page as something that has a similar name (along with a game and a Fortean Phenomenon), and b) this page references the Toad in the Hole page as an item with a similar name. Mfdavies (talk) 03:05, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, I note that '"Toad in the Hole" Toast' on google results in 217,000 hits, whereas '"Toad in the Hole" Yorkshire Pudding' results in only 26,800 hits. Mfdavies (talk) 03:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

i have reverted your edit for several reasons;

first and foremost, the name of the article is egg in the basket. it makes zero sense to open the article with "toad in the hole - also known as egg in the basket...".
secondly, every single result on the first page of a google search for 'toad in the hole' refers to the batter/sausage dish - as well as the associated google image search. every single result on the first page of a google search for 'egg in the basket' refers to the bread/egg dish - again, as well as the associated google image search. Kaini (talk) 21:55, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I disagree with your edit assertions. I can accept that opening the article with "toad in the hole - also known as egg in the basket..." is a bit confusing. However, your comment that every single result is patently false. The very first link links to the other Wikipedia Toad in the hole article. The second links to the allrecipes recipe for this very dish, as do several other links on the first page. Additionally, "toad in the hole" toast returns 138,000 rows, but "egg in the basket" toast only returns 111,000 records. Due to your fair comment about opening the article with toad in the hole, I have changed the wording to be more accurate, while also allowing it to start on egg in the basket. Mfdavies (talk) 02:42, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

the origin of the term 'toad in the hole' is in english cooking; Jamie Oliver ([1]), Nigel Slater ([2]), Nigella Lawson ([3]), and others far more WP:RS than you would assert that it's the sausage-and-batter dish. also, "toad in the hole" "sausage" produces many more results than "toad in the hole" "toast" - ~206,000 to ~137,000 results. finally, a google image search reveals 1 'egg in the basket' dish on the first page when searching for 'toad in the hole' - everything else is a sausage/batter-based dish. therefore, i am reverting your edit.

please don't take that any of this as an assumption of bad faith in any way - 'also known as toad in the hole' would work for me, but that particular name is, i believe mentioned later in the article - i'd encourage you to produce more solid evidence than that if you're going to include an 'also known' in the lede. Kaini (talk) 03:51, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm no gourmet, but I'd like to add my two cents that I found it very confusing when a video game journalist with a notable entry on Wikipedia used that expression meaning a toast with an egg inside, Wikipedia did not even mention that meaning at all. Since I'm not the first person to say that, and, as noted before, since Google shows a fairly substantial number of similar uses on the Web, I feel it would be great to at least have a single sentence saying that the "toad in the hole" may also mean a toast with an egg in the US/CA. Sitagi (talk) 14:28, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Blame on the Boy Scouts?

I see that the Boy Scouts of America called an egg in a hole in toast a "toad in a hole" back in 1956 in Boy's Life. Are there any early references to this "treat" in any other early publication? (and yes, this would be doing research - so it can't be linked to, if one finds an earlier cite.) Sangorshop 20:49, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Kid-friendly

The kid-friendly version is prepared in a conventional oven. Respectfully, Tiyang (talk) 08:16, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OnMilwaukee article

The following article was published today and may be useful in this article: Fredrich, Lori (April 2, 2019). "Egg in a hole: This polyonymous dish might be the best breakfast ever". OnMilwaukee. Ibadibam (talk) 03:55, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]