Talk:Effron the Sorcerer

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Story behind the story

If the real world origin of Effron is truly a never before told story should it really be included in wikipedia as per WP:NOR? I quickly checked the external links and it doesn't seem to be mentioned in any of them.

I feel like there must be a better title for this section as well, but couldn't come up with anything I wanted to use.

wubb 20:15, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is cited in the last link to the Week magazine. The person who wrote this would be considered an expert in this field, and because the views were published in another reputable source, it can be reproduced in Wikipedia. (I read that in the article you linked to.) The title fits well. Sorry. Harryfronman 01:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That links seems pretty dubious to me especially since it says he knew the person (his brother - most likely you) that added it. Do you have any other proof? Seems like WP:NOR to me. This whole article needs to be cleaned up. K1Bond007 04:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are right it does mention it in the Week magazine article, I didn't notice that when I first scanned them. I'll leave it to other Wikipedians to decide how to handle it from here. wubb 14:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the last link, a link to a reputable magazine, a one that is published nationally, is one that verifies the data. I don't know what the first guy is talking about, but thank you wubb, for agreeing with me. Let's get that unverifiable data thing off of this page, and put it somewhere else, where it belongs. Harryfronman 05:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've read the Editorial. Most of what was in this Wikipedia article isn't found anywhere in that bit by Eric Effron. Most of it reads like a personal story, especially the bits about the real Effron's character and house. I mean c'mon, that bit about the house is a dead giveaway that it's Original Research. CovenantD 06:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your face is a dead giveaway. Well, you didn't have to take that much away. And i wouldn't call it research. It's kind of just... a true story? Harryfronman 7 June 2006 (UTC)

And how are we to know, when many of the "facts" can't be confirmed? CovenantD 04:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]