Talk:Eels with Strings: Live at Town Hall

The DVD

As the DVD isn't properly an album, I don't think it needs the album infobox (part of Wikipedia:Wikiproject Albums)... --Gika 22:36, 4 March 2006 (UTC) ===>Album? How is it not an album? It's a collection of related audio tracks, released together commercially in an audio format to the public. The fact that it furthermore has video is irrelevant. -Justin (koavf), talk 19:20, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

No, because the DVD between one track and another has also some film-like features (mostly the camera following E around cities) and other things that are not just audio. And a DVD is not "audio format", it's "audio/video format". I'm not saying we should remove the infobox at all, just merge it with the CD infobox, like I did before your revert, as CD and DVD share most of the infobox content. --Gika, 20 July 2006

===>Still an album As long as it is a "collection of related audio tracks, released together commerically in an audio format to the public" it's an album. The fact that it furthermore has video media, photographs, liner notes, etc. is all irrelevant to whether or not it is an album; an album isn't just audio. The presence of audio tracks makes it an album. -Justin (koavf), talk, mail 00:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

So a movie is an album? (Apart from that, what about merging the infoboxes, as CD and DVD share most of the content?) --Gika 12:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

===>No Since it only has one continuous audio track. I'm neither in favor of nor opposed to merging the infoboxes, but since I don't see any outstanding reason to do so, I suppose I'm tacitly in favor of the status quo. -Justin (koavf), talk, mail 13:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Then Delìrium Còrdia is not an album, since it only has one continuous audio track? If I record a CD and give it away for free it's not an album because it's not "released commercially" since I'm not making money from it? Come on... Following definitions is OK, but sometimes common sense helps. Anyway, with only one infobox the page would be cleaner, as the redundant information are deleted, and the (few) differences between the CD and the DVD could be spotted more easily. --Gika 19:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

===>Actually, I'd say no It's a single. It would be marketed as an album because of its length. An album that you give away would still be an album because it was released to the public - the commerce is a trade off of publicity for your band at the expense of you not making a profit. All that aside, feel free to combine them if you can do so without losing any information. -Justin (koavf), talk, mail 20:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Credits and external links

I removed the "special thanks" from the credits section because I'm certain it's not Wikipedia's job to provide an exact and full copy of the credits from the CD and DVD, which this seemed to be, if it were then some films would have long pages dedicated to crediting all the cameramen etc. If anything I think it still needs further trimming. The fact that we don't know who the John Dee mentioned referred to, and probably others of the red links, shows it's very specialised information. If anyone particularly wants some/all of the information included I would recommend it goes under a trivia heading, saying "In the sleevenotes Eels thanked..." with a short list of people included.

I removed 2 of the external links because they were duplicates of links already on the main Eels page which weren't related to this release. 213.122.89.103 19:18, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

The above unsigned comment was by me Jimbow25 19:37, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

===>Okay I suppose I don't see any outstanding reason to delete something that I worked on, and my thinking is, if you don't want to know that information, don't read it. That having been said, I'm not going to fight about it, but I am going to reinsert the link from Eels' official web site; if any link should be on this page, it would be that one. -Justin (koavf), talk 19:58, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Red Links

There are far too many red links - 95% of them are pointless. Wiki has said, don't add red links if you are not prepared to create the article it links too. Red link "The Chet" and "Big Al" is fine, but there is no point in all the other people --Befuddled Steve 10:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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