Talk:Edward Bellamy/Archive 1

Archive 1

personal attacks and threats to block against the whole story.

<snipped advert for Rex Curry's wackiness> Similar criticisms apply to the Wikipedia pages on Francis Bellamy, Edward Bellamy and the Pledge of Allegiance.

And we are to trust this rexcurry.net? How is this site legitimate or worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia? Just sounds like another fringe group...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 132.239.59.199 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

• Just another nutbag trying to push something - 130.102.42.97 08:14, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Quite. Grade A crank. He spent several months hassling and libelling Wikipedians all over the net[1] because he wasn't allowed to pedal his kookiness here. — Matt Crypto 09:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Censorship

Stormie improperly censored even an external link that he didn't "like" to prevent others from seeing http://members.ij.net/rex/pledgebackward.html and true historic eye-popping photos linked there. Apparently Stormie wants everyone to pretend that Edward Bellamy was perfect and that there is no room for any criticism of Bellamy whatsoever, in Stormie's mind.

I'm not American and had never even heard of Edward Bellamy until yesterday. I certainly have no opinion as to whether he is "perfect" or not.

There is room for criticism of Bellamy: in the article, and on the discussion page. You document the criticisms that have been made of him, and everyone will help thrash out an NPOV article that presents all sides fairly. Sneakily inserting links to your rants, with misleading descriptions, is not appropriate behaviour. —Stormie 23:54, Jun 24, 2004 (UTC)

Stubbiness/incompleteness?

Eh, episodes of trolling aside, shouldn't there be some brief explanation of what Bellamy's utopian offering entailed? The bloke WAS responsible for a fair bit of the growth of populism in the states, regardless of the merits of his argument in hindsight... 68.102.208.174 04:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

• Of course, including his influence on Debs (cf. Zinn's book on a people's history of the U.S.).

Credit card?

I got here through Credit card, which claims that "The concept of using a card for purchases was invented in 1887 by Edward Bellamy and described in his utopian novel Looking Backward. Bellamy uses the explicit term "Credit Card" eleven times in his novel (Chapters 9, 10, 11, 13, 25 and 26) and 3 times (Chapters 4, 8 and 19) in its sequel, Equality." Might it be a good idea to add this to this article as well? Derek Chong 08:31, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

• Yes.