Talk:Education in the United States/Archive 2021

Proposed removal of Department of Education seal and links from infobox

I am proposing the removal of the Department of Education seal and links from infobox. It's highly misleading to readers to imply that the federal government plays the lead role in coordinating or funding education in the U.S., especially at the K-12 levels where state and local control is dominant. ElKevbo (talk) 20:41, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

I fully concur that the edit is simply wrong and should be immediately reverted. For the record, User:ElKevbo is challenging this edit by User:Bluealbion on 24 March 2021.

I also object to these other parameters:

|agency = United States Department of Education

|leader titles = United States Secretary of Education

|leader names = Miguel Cardona

ElKevbo (talk) 22:38, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Anyone who understands the Commerce Clause and the Tenth Amendment (see United States v. Lopez (1995)) would understand why the federal government can play only a limited, secondary role in education, while much of American education is directly controlled by state and local governments. For these same reasons, the federal government plays only a secondary role in other areas like health care, child services, legal aid, highways, and urban mass transit. In all those fields, the federal government exerts only indirect control under the Spending Clause through block grants. --Coolcaesar (talk) 21:21, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Example grading scale

This table is about 50% too wide. Beautifully executed but do we need it at all? If we do- wheres the reference? If we do- isn't it too detailed. If there's concensus, I will collapse the + and - columns, but there may be better ways. --ClemRutter (talk) 22:18, 6 July 2021 (UTC)