Talk:Education in Islam

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Why is there no information on what education looks like in the current Muslim World? "Education in Islam" is not just only a historical topic, but also an important topic in the modern world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lzweine (talk • contribs) 23:44, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

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Request for comments

Greetings to all,

A Request for comment has been initiated regarding RfC about whether to allow use of honorofic 'Allama' with the names or not?

Requesting your comments to formalize the relevant policy @ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles

Thanks

Bookku (talk) 18:04, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Propose split

I propose splitting the article into "Islamic views on education" and "Education in medieval Islamic world". This is like how we have split Islamic attitudes towards science and Science in the medieval Islamic world. Just as the topic of Science in Islam is too broad, similarly "Education in Islam" is a very broad topic.VR _talk 19:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

I think this is at least premature, and potentially unwarranted by the body of RSs. I wrote most of the content about pre-modern education, and I recall that the main source I used treats these two sub-topics together, so the bulk of the article content discusses them together as well. I would say a higher a priority is to expand this article with some additional well-sourced content about more recent times. Eperoton (talk) 02:35, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Eperoton, education (meaning both secular and religious, at all levels) in the modern Muslim world is a very broad topic that has little coherence. Education systems are more influenced by colonialism than by Islam. For example, education in Pakistan has more in common with education in India (both being former British colonies) than education in Algeria (being a former French colony). American Muslims' education has much more in common with their fellow Americans than with their co-religionists in Africa.

If we wanted to consider recent times, a better topic would be "Modern Islamic higher studies". That topic has much more coherence, both because it is influenced by Islam, and various Islamic universities are actually modeled after one another.VR _talk 17:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

As for any article with "in Islam" in the title, there's the ambiguity between Islam as religion and Islam meaning the Muslim world. Right now we don't have much here about the modern era in either sense. Eperoton (talk) 03:29, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps some use of the terms "Islamicate" or "Islamic" can help make this distinction, as these terms are less inherently associated with the religion and more so refer to the 'Muslim world' at large. TOWNS12282 (talk) 00:04, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Additional Sources

Hello! I am helping in editing this article for a school assignment, and have compiled a few additional sources I will be exploring in hopes of further expanding the breadth and detail of this article. I have included a bibliography of these sources before (which I believe have not been employed in this article before).

Alkanderi, Latefah. “Exploring Education in Islam: Al-Ghazali's Model of the Master-Pupil Relationship Applied to Educational Relationships within the Islamic Family.” Thesis, The ::Pennsylvania State University The Graduate School, 2001.

Hafiz Khamis Al-Hafiz, Muhamad, and Mohamad Johdi Salleh. “The Philosophy and Objectives of Education in Islam.” International Islamic University Malaysia (IIUM), 2010.

Hilgendorf, Eric. “Islamic Education: History and Tendency.” Peabody Journal of Education 78, no. 2 (2003): 63–75. https://doi.org/10.1207/s15327930pje7802_04.

Muhammad Naquib al-Attas, Syed. The Concept of Education in Islam, 1980.

Schweitzer, Friedrich, and Dan-Paul Jozsa. “Religion and Education in Europe: Developments, Contexts and Debates – Edited by Robert Jackson, Siebren Miedema, Wolfram Weisse, and ::Jean-Paul Willaime.” Islam and Education in Europe 11, no. 2 (2008): 67–76. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-9647.2008.00426.x.

Woodward, Mark, Inayah Rohmaniyah, Ali Amin, and Diana Coleman. “Muslim Education, Celebrating Islam and Having Fun As Counter-Radicalization Strategies in Indonesia.” Terrorism ::Research Initiative 4, no. 4 (October 2010): 28–50.

Thanks, and let me know if you see any issues. TOWNS12282 (talk) 00:47, 27 October 2021 (UTC)