Talk:Eduardo da Silva

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Stop reverting Inker into Inter. The name of the club when he played for them was Inker. So leave it is as Inker. Bloody fool. Check the Inter Zapresic wikipedia page.

Arsenal transfer value

Recently in Baku (Azerbaijan) when Dinamo Zagreb was playing their Champsions League qualification match against the local club Dinamo's vice-president and the man who take care of all transfer's Zdravko Mamić, was quoted to say "Dinamo needs to pay a fee of €480,000 to the Croatian football association". The fee for all transfer's is 3%, this means that the whole transfer deal worth was around €15m or ₤10m. Report about it on the Croatian tv station Nov@ TV [1] --No.13 14:37, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Name

Eduardo had be been claimed that Da Silva is his mother maiden name, should we mention that the suraname Alves da Silva, Alves is from father. Matthew_hk tc 16:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Hes scored another one

Actually Eduardo have scored in Croatias 5-3 win over Bosnia Hercegovna (1 goal), note that please. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.227.162.240 (talk) 07:34, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

Is it possiable for some1 to add a table for goals information?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.142.147.125 (talk) 16:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC) As for goal. In the bar on the right hand side showing his stats, it read 13 games (7 goals) This makes no sense. That means it is taking the games as 9 in the leage and 3 ni the cup and 1 random game from somewhere else, but it is counting all of the goal from Europe. That's not right. On all other footballers pages it is league games and league goals and cup games and european matches aren't counted. Thus, it should be 9(0) as he hasn't scored in the league. If it does in fact include cup matches then it should be 12(4), but not 13(7). That makes no sense. MrNewcastle (talk) 13:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Updated goals and appearance tally!

After seeing nobody else would fix it up, I updated his goal and appearance numbers. I dont know why you are only counting his league goals, because thats stupid. He has scored twice in the Champions League (including once in a qualifier) and many more in the league cups. I've done the exact count with help of other stats from websites, the correct tally should be 11 goals in 19 appearances for Arsenal. I have fixed it, please leave it that way! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.183.0.178 (talk) 09:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

All soccer infoboxes use league goals only. That is why I created an extra stats table in the body of the article to provide further information. Chensiyuan (talk) 09:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Lots of vandalism (RE: serious injury)

It's clear that since the serious injury Eduardo sustained during the Birmingham match, this page is receiving alot of vandalism (e.g: 'addition of date of death', 'being amputated'). In fact, the vandalism is appearing at a rate of every minute right now as I type this, it's quite difficult to revert all the time. Mark PEA (talk) 22:09, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Here's a Guadian article. On vandalism, try WP:RFPP. Imagine Reason (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I removed "un-intentional" from the description of the foul because it is pure speculation; I do not believe it was intentional, but we cannot judge intentions, so we can only say it was a foul without referring to intentions. Tamer (talk) 07:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Added to watchlist here Alexsanderson83 (talk) 11:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Eduardo all over YouTube

Might be worth mentioning that, as I'm looking at it now, the top 17 videos on YouTube Global are ALL about Eduardo da Silva. The #1 video has over 2 million views. This is not something that happens very often (if ever), so a nice illustration of how important this injury was to the rest of the world dearly (talk) 06:02, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Injury in Lead

What are people's opinion on mentioning the injury in the lead. Personally I believe it is important enough to be mentioned and should have at least one sentence. Thanks Suicidalhamster (talk) 14:33, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I would tend to agree - I've been bold and added one - people are welcome to mess around with it, as always. I think the lead needs expanding in general, too. x42bn6 Talk Mess 00:43, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I also agree that the lead overall is too short and needs expanding. Suicidalhamster (talk) 17:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The News of the World Interview

was completely fabricated. Eduardo never spoke to them.Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrPOLQPY7UA Translated transcript: http://arseblog.com/columns/2008/03/05/eduardos-first-interview-with-croatian-tv/ That was the sole source for the story about Taylor visiting him in hospital and of Eduardo "forgiving" him so I've removed them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.204.121 (talk) 07:33, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

The apparently "no visit" has made news itself but Sky Sports removed their news report leaving only Goal.com's report (I doubt this is reliable). I'd note, though, that removing the report on the basis of someone's blogged transcript is an application of original research. I think a couple more reliable sources will report on the "no-show" by Taylor other than blogs. x42bn6 Talk Mess 18:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Taylor didnt visit him!

There are many news stories which are rightfully saying that Eduardo said Taylor never visited him in hospital and he hasn't spoken to him since the injury. I noticed in the injury section it says that Taylor has visited Eduardo and he has forgiven him - which is wrong. The current new stories quote Eduardo saying it is a lie and he is yet to be visited. I would remove that small sentence or at least fix it up.

He apparently cannot recall it. There was a Sky Sports article on it but they deleted it. There was never any reliable sources on this, only speculation from blogs and tabloids, but I found a couple that said he couldn't remember it and put one down. x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Removing {{current sport section}}

If nobody objects, I'll remove this soon. It's not really a current event any more. x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:57, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Eduardos injury

I believe it was Fabregas who signaled for Lewin to come on the pitch (as well as for Lewin to therefore signal fellow physios and doctors to race onto the pitch)

as it says Lewin immediately called for a stretcher. Fabregas knew Eduardo wasnt getting up, so he shouted to Lewin.

Nothing major, just thought it might be of some use! Xkingoftheworldx (talk) 20:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

International stats?

I'm pretty sure his stats have not changed since he got injured (obviously). The most common international stats seen on here was 13 goals in 22 caps, which I think is very correct due to hearing it around other stories as well. Somebody has changed it to 22 goals in 39 caps now, which I think is wrong, especially without evidence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Domiy (talk • contribs) 02:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Leg injury section labeled as too long...

It wasn't me who put this label under the leg injury section, but I was suprised at seeing it as I spent a fair amount of time yesterday trying to cut out as much as possible from it because I already always knew and established it was just too much loads of info in such a section. Though it is all somewhat relevant and true info, I think it is not necessary to mention all of it. I will do my best to slim it down as much as possible.

And just to clarify what another user said, it was actually Fabregas who called for immediate assistance after the injury. Domiy (talk) 23:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Image changing!

Please stop changing the images which apppear on the page. There is no need to put the image of him posing for a team photo with Dinamo Zagreb and Arsenal. I doubt these are free images anyway so you should restrain from using such team photos.

Also, please do not keep changing the main image on the lead section. There should be an image showing him from a mid to long shot, as all footballer images are. Before changing the images, please discuss it here first so we can reach a decision. Domiy (talk) 00:14, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

How did Da Silva become Croatian?

He's Brazilian at birth but the article does not mention how or why did he choose a nation that is not his own. According to Croatian laws, it states that to become a naturalized citizen the foreigner (that is applying for Croat nationality) must have Serbo-Croatian ancestry / blood, and must live in Coatia for a period of 5 years or more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.240.227.149 (talk) 17:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, from what I heard, he came to Croatia when he was 15 to look to expand his career. He may have registered in Croatia before s[ending short time on loan in Brazil. But when you add up the date he arrived in Croatia and then how long he was playing at Dinamo and Zapresic, it is a fairly long time. One which I would think is enough to earn citicenship. Although, it may differ in Croatia specifically to footballers. Since he was playing in the first division of Croatian football, the number of years required may have been shortened. Domiy (talk) 05:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Last line

"His serious injury sparked much controversy around Croatia. Previous to such, Eduardo became one of Croatia's key players, exemplified by his consistent qualifying campaign which saw him score 10 goals in 12 games, including a goal and an assist in the two fixtures against England. Connected to such, Taylor's tackle was seen as a direct target of possible revenge as Croatia knocked England out of the qualifying campaign for Euro 2008. Eduardo was unable to participate at the tournament, which was arguably one of the main factors in Croatia's exit."

I was going to just delete this but thought to put it here first. Other than being irrelevant, and discussing possibles and rumours that most likely aren't true, it just shouldn't be in the article. 24framespersecond (talk) 06:52, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I was also thinking about removing this, especially that part about Taylor's "possible revenge", which is completely irrelevant and inappropriate for an encyclopedia article, and possibly merely a personal opinion of the individual who added it. Micky the Mouseman (talk) 15:45, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Removed. It's a BLP issue - suggesting Taylor did this on purpose? I believe it's an opinion - the first gist of its mention was at [2] and was gently synthesised to become more "NPOV" but it's still POV. x42bn6 Talk Mess 18:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Opening paragraph and Leg Injury section

I do not think it is necessary to have information about the leg injury in the opening paragraph as well as in another section, and therefore I have removed it from the opening paragraph and also added details in about his return for the reserves against Portsmouth Red&White4life (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Chensiyuan (talk) 17:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Brazilian born Croatian footballer

This type of phrase is worryingly common in articles like these. It's misleading. It implies that he's a Croatian who happened to be born in Brazil. That's clearly not actually the case - he's a Brazilian who has since acquired Croatian citizenship and chosen to play for Croatia internationally.

It would be far less misleading if we just listed the facts. Eduardo was born and brought up in Brazil, but he has since acquired Croatian citizenship and chosen to play for Croatia. Blankfrackis (talk) 02:18, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Assessment comment

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==November 2012== A well-developed article that meets all WP:BCLASS requirements. Some aspects of the article would have to be improved in order to reach GA class standard: Referencing needs to be improved. "Dinamo Zagreb" and "Arsenal" sections are rather sparsely referenced. The "International career" section covers only the events up to his period of absence due to injury. Needs to be expanded with his more recent activity with the national team. With these changes, the article would be an excellent GA candidate. GregorB (talk) 11:02, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Last edited at 11:02, 12 November 2012 (UTC). Substituted at 14:09, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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