Talk:Edmund Bertram

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The Mansfield living

The section regarding the living is factually wrong. It states that the living reverted to Sir Thomas because Dr. Grant moved to Westminster.

This is wrong. Dr. Grant moved to Westminster, but the living continued being his. One presumes that it was taken care of through a curate, while the tithes remained with Dr. Grant. It was his death that allowed Edmund to take the living.

Quoting from the last chapter of the book:

[...]After what had passed to wound and alienate the two families, the continuance of the Bertrams and Grants in such close neighbourhood would have been most distressing; but the absence of the latter, for some months purposely lengthened, ended very fortunately in the necessity, or at least the practicability of a permanent removal. Dr. Grant, through an interest on which he had almost ceased to form hopes, succeeded to a stall in Westminster, which, as affording an occasion for leaving Mansfield, an excuse for residence in London, and an increase of income to answer the expenses of the change, was highly acceptable to those who went, and those who staid.

[...]to complete the picture of good, the acquisition of Mansfield living, by the death of Dr. Grant, occurred just after they had been married long enough to begin to want an increase of income[...] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.155.71.83 (talk) 09:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrote the passage to indicate they only get mansfield after he dies. Dabbler (talk) 12:03, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

sources?

I just changed several smaller pieces in the Edmund material. Unfortunately it appears that some of this article is being written primarily on one or another of the television productions or movies, rather than on the book. Since it's a character article, it should probably describe all the major interpretations, but be referenced, and the base should be the original character in the novel. So, for instance, Edmund doesn't realize that he has "always" loved Fanny, but he does come to realize that he loves her; he's not enraged by Mary's comments about Fanny, but about her general lack of moral condemnation of her brother & his sister, and her concern for social setting and wealth. I've fixed some of the perspective here, but imagine that other character pages are similarly written. It's really unfortunate, because Hollywood / TV has a tendency to turn these stories into simple love stories and elide some of the character and plot complexities in the Austen's novels. --Lquilter (talk) 14:13, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Upgrading the article

I'm developing the article, and as with the other MP articles I've been working on, attempting to use as much as possible of the work that other editors have left here over the last decade. I am copying in, and modifying, material from the main article. I will eventually edit down the main article to a more manageable size once the 'character' article are reasonably updated. Petrosbizar (talk) 20:08, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]